Quoting Arlo Bensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Arlo] > Manufacture, production and distribution are social level activities. > Calculus, chaos theory and quantum physics are intellectual patterns. > But I'm still trying to figure out how we tell who is more moral, or > better, than someone else? You've suggested (1) criminality and...
So the manufacture, production and distribution of goods and services can be done by retards, and you have to be employed by a nonprofit organization to be considered an intellectual? Puleeze. > [Platt] > Fighting for dynamic freedom. I don't why it is so hard for many here > to understand and accept that in the MOQ freedom the highest value. > > [Arlo] > My question is, is a soldier a better person than a firefighter? If > so, why? I'll wait til you answer this because it leads to the only > other suggestion you've made, that putting oneself in harms way for > the greater good makes one a better person than someone who does not. A soldier not only fights for his family's freedom but for his own. I don't know where you get this "greater good" from. > [Platt] > No, I don't mean that. What has medical assistance got to do with who > is morally superior? > > [Arlo] > Well, you were the one who drifted from who should and who should not > get medical treatment by asking whether or not I think some people > are better. I assume this implies that the "better" people are the > ones who should get medical assistance, while the "valueless" do not. > > But my point continues to be this, if we let the economic market > determine who does and who does not receive medical care, then we are > tying the value of human life to that person's ability to generate wealth. To a person's ability to pay for services rendered, yes. Without wealth there would be no doctors, no medicines, no life saving equipment. If you want to be treated by a tribal medicine man, be my guest. > [Platt] > Freedom means you can support all the poor who make you feel good > supporting. It doesn't mean you have the right to put a gun to your > neighbor's head and force him to pay for your cold medicine. > > [Arlo] > You claim rings hollow, since you have no problem whatsoever using > that "gun" to force me to do other things. Besides, the "gun to your > head" rhetoric is a bit stale. Stale? Most people don't even realize that's the only thing that gives government its power. > Paying into our great infrastructure > benefits everyone, from libraries to a social safety net. Its a honor > to be part of this system, and to pay my membership dues. I hope I > never need it, but I've seen bad things happen to good people, and I > have no reason to think that I, or anyone else, is special. Not to > mention that we all pay, even with "insurance", because if you have > used more insurance money than you've paid in, that extra difference > comes from them raising MY premiums and MY deductibles. Insurance is a voluntary association of people for mutual protection. There's nothing voluntary about paying taxes to support wasteful government programs and fat bureaucrats. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
