At 09:49 PM 3/29/2007, you wrote: >Marsha, > >MV: >I was suggesting that one can have a direct, nondualistic experience >that is prior to, or separate from, intellect. But then when you >try to think or talk about it, you get tangled in the culture's >dualistic static pattern of value. > >Mati: Bingo!!!!, and this analysis of the dualistic static pattern of value >is the basis for philosophy. And when this static pattern is used to define >reality from a rational context we have intellect. Now this pattern may >seem cold and .... static, but.... I has also given us the capacity to come >full circle and allow us to recognize the undivided reality of the moon >being the moon. > >MV: >It seems to me that intellect coexists with language, snip.... > >Mati: As it does with the social values. > >MV: ... and in the West they are both predicated on a subject/object >point-of-view. I've wondered about your question too. Maybe there are >non-Western cultures that are not built on dualistic understanding. Poetry >is often non-dualistic. Right? Native American? I would love to here >from other too. > >Mati: Sure there are non-dualistic experiences, poetry, art, etc. however as >you perhaps elude to understanding requires definition and definition >requires a dualistic capacity to establish meaning that is philosophy. Just >as the moon is just the moon, philosophy is just philosophy, a beauty all in >its own.
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