[Arlo previously] But I guess some people need to be forced "at the point of a gun" not to murder other people too.
[Platt] At last, agreement on the true nature of government -- legalized force. [Arlo] I think this speaks more to the nature of the people who need to be "forced" not to kill other people, than the nature of government. Tell me, is the "force of the government" the only reason you don't commit murder? You don't see the increased freedoms you attain from voluntarily complying with a social contract? [Platt] Sure is better to have riches in order to more fully enjoy all those things you mention. [Arlo] I don't need riches to enjoy family, friends, community, shared laughter or shared pain, walks in the forest with my child or any of the things (except the motorcycle riding) on that list. Value and meaning in life are not derived from wealth or riches, and while a in a capitalist economy, wealth can enhance one's range of options, true value does not derive from the wealth. [Platt] I'd much rather seek a meaningful life as a native of the U.S. than of Borneo. My guess is that you would, too. [Arlo] Personally I prefer northern climes, but I don't think living or not living in Borneo would have any impact on whether or not I'd lead a meaningful life. For I am sure that the things that matter to me most would be present in my life here or there. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
