[Dan] Thank you for writing. I think if you ask people to point to self you'll find that they automatically point to the center of their body. We associate
the body with self. But where is self in the body? Is it in the center where people point? Is it in the brain? I don't know. Do you? [Case] I suspect the self originates in the body but it can be expressed and many ways. But the term also lends itself to many to many meanings so it is hard to say. Dan: Buddhism is not a religion, imo. Not that I consider myself a Buddhist. [Case] Why would you say it is not a religion? And why is it so important for you not to consider yourself anything at all? Dan: See for yourself. [Case] What am I looking for? Dan: >From a scientific point of view there is no self. [Case] According to who? [Dan] I am not a religious person. I used to go to several churches a lot but it was to clean not to pray. The retreats I go on are nothing like the religious retreats you might be familar with. So I think we are probably talking past each other. [Case] Retreats are fairly common practices. While the specific forms and goals differ, the practice of having them is widespread. I doubt that the ones you attend are as unusual as you think. >From what you say you have an expert guiding a group of students through a series of exercises design to teach them something about themselves. This usually takes place at a location relatively free of modern distractions. The example I gave of Rodney Howard Brown had nothing to do with a retreat, however. It served mainly to show that individuals can be invited to experience for themselves a wide variety of inner states. Group consensus can be achieved on how to achieve these states and what they mean. You invited me to come see for myself. I am sure Rev. Brown welcomes you to experience the movement of the spirit. What's the difference? moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
