Quoting Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Platt] > I'm drawn to the idea of universal consciousness by its explanatory power, > much better than "Oops" or "Don't ask." > > [Case] > So you would follow Wilber in this? I am having a really tough time with his > account of these extra explanatory powers. He makes frequent use of the term > Omega point for each level in his scheme. Is this what you mean? > > What do you mean?
What I mean is that for many years, ever since I heard Murray Gell-Man say on TV that science had no idea what consciousness was, I have known there was a huge gap in the scientific explanation of the world. To fill that gap has been an interest ever since. Wilber was one of the first who provided some answers. His two early works, "Spectrum of Consciousness" and "Eye to Eye" opened up a new world of explanation to me. From him I turned to various writers from the scientific community such as David Darling, Paul Davies, Roger Penrose, Daniel Dennett and others. Each attempted to fill the gap in different ways, as the brief excerpts I used in my previous post to you illustrated. Then along came Pirsig with "Lila" and his gap-filling Dynamic Quality which cast a whole new light on the subject. Since then I've vaciliated between the various explanations I've come across, but never being completely happy with any of them. Pirsig's seems to be the best because it accounts for beauty which even physicists look for in their equations. His weakness as I see it is his inability to account for the phenomenon of "experience." So round and round I go. Right now I'm reading Hofstadter's new book, "I Am a Strange Loop" which I hope will offer another answer to throw in the mix. Of course, it may come down to "Oops" after all, with consciousness merely an "emergent" from complexity as the materialists say. But in the meantime, I'm having a whale of a good time. I suspect that you are, too. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
