Arlo, et al "Have I ever been in a pub and heard a song ?" Doh. Does the pope shit in the woods ? How did you know my middle name Arlo ?
I'm practically an addict of late night live music joints; trouble is I always fall for it, buy the artist's often amateur produced CD, take it home and 9 times out of 10 ask myself why did I do that - sure it sounded better through the smoke and alcohol ? Of course the answer is easy - dynamic quality - one time in 10 (maybe a hundred) you've found a gem thay repays the disappointments. (Tommy Womack out of Nashville is my current rave. Aside - talking of Nashville experiences - had the surreal experience of witnessing G3 triple-bill of rock guitarists the other night - performing in that wonderful old converted gospel church that was once the original Ole Opry and by day is the Opry museum - talk about cultural mix. Similar experience at the old Atlanta Tabernacle too -- hmmm, a theme here, but I digress.) Agree with all the others' points about museums / galleries / concert halls / zoos - for certain kinds of artistic experience, they can only ever be a compromise. I see their main static roles as the value of historical preservation - part of education - beyond that, art as experience really needs to stay close to the culture it's talking to and encourage participation, where the real quality lies. Mix and variety are key qualities - the essence of dynamic I guess. Ian On 4/10/07, Khaled Alkotob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arlo, Ian, Ben > > Which brings us to an argument I had with a local museum director. Of > course the local art scene is trying for more customers, and the > customers find their fix somewhere else. > > Why do I need to go to a museum to appreciate these things when they can > be found somewhere else. If I go down to Tower Records, and spent an hour > flipping through music albums ( before the advent of CDs) and simply > enjoy the art work, is that a lesser quality experience than if it was > hanging inside their walls. Is there not talent involved in the creation > of these album covers? > Museums. in a way have become like zoos. They take things from their > element and put them in an enclosure and expect the visitor to enjoy the > full experience. Watching a couple of zebras chew their cud is different > tan being there and seeing a few thousands on the march. > > As Arlo said, listening to that song at that moment in a pub, makes an > impression that can't be duplicated. > > I remember a saxophone reverberating in the financial district in San > Francisco at 7:00 in the morning, that is still with me to this day. > > Maybe the proper place for Mr. Bell to play IS the train station. Just > because it's unexpected and he is reaching people he would not normally > reach. > > Khaled > > > > [Ian] > > it's the cultural context of the "performance", whatever peoples > > actual "tastes" for a given musical genre. > > > > [Arlo] > > A painting hanging in a museum is not a simple "art object" > > suspended in isolation awaiting an unsuspecting subject. The museum > itself > > provides a whole host of contextual cues, from Khaled's pointing out > of "validation" (if its hanging in a museum, it MUST be good), to > > the anticipation and expectation of the experience carried through > > echoey > > wooden floors, and quiet hushed talk to spotlighting and museum > > guards. > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
