Micah, 
 http://moq.org/forum/Pirsig/emmpaper.html
Again, to all, Read Pirsigs paper. It address this whole thread
And puts it in perspective. Bohr was mis-interpreted. As I said
Before, I feel Pirsig is very accurate in his appraisal of Bohrs Quantum
Philosophy. What we experience as subject is not object but the data of
The object filtered through the past experiences of that subject. This
Does'nt necessarily mean that reality is primarily subjective it just
means
Our perception of it is. This gets confused with Heisenburgs theory of
Uncertainty which plainly states that at an atomic level you can not
observe
Atomic phenomena without effecting it by either the method of
examination
Which is the instument emitting or relecting energy or the mass of said
instrument
Effecting it or the mass of the observer itself. Mass and energy effect
space.
You are using mass and energy to observe mass and energy, obviously you
can not
Observe energy using energy and expect anything but modulations of it.
It's like chasing a rainbow and after determining it can't be caught
Resign the phenomena to being an illusion of the mind.
 http://moq.org/forum/Pirsig/emmpaper.html 

-Ron
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