Jos, Ham,

You don't even need to hire a biologist to figure this one out. You can just
walk into your back yard and see this isn't true. Birds perceive insects and
truly seem to Value eating them. Try throwing bread crumbs into shallow
water and see if fish don't independently express their Value judgments.

Case
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[Jos]
Really?

Which biologists are you quoting here?

> [Ham]
> I said that Value is a uniquely human perception.  I didn't 
> say that other organic species don't perceive.
> (However, you'd have a difficult time trying to convince a 
> biologist that fish can make independent value judgments.)


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