Applying ususal MOQ zealotry to the rounding problem I think you*
> produce another kind of maths thats no bloody use to anyone

By "you*" I mean "one" by which I mean "me". Please dont appologise I'm all for 
zealotry - in for a penny in for a pound. 

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> Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails?
> 
> 
> [Jos]
>  Applying ususal MOQ zealotry to the rounding problem I think you
> produce another kind of maths thats no bloody use to anyone.
> To be accurate you have to show some factor that allows the 
> two sides to
> be equated precisely by assigning relative values to the 
> different units
> as well as an element that specifies quantity.
> 
> [Ron]
> Topos does this. I was just pointing out the flaw in conventional math
> and in conventional
> thinking by my examples. Please excuse the zealotry but it was very
> difficult to explain
> and no one really thinks it's a big deal. But in pointing out the
> problem, a workable
> theory of quantum physics which relates to the MOQ was found. 
> I feel it
> also relates to 
> how we percieve also. Why we see perfect form and value particular
> patterns more than others.
> And why MOQ may change this.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Kulp
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:56 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> [Jos]
> 
> Do you consider interger units to be representative values or
> quantities?
> Like you imply, with quantities you have to assume that your comparing
> apples with apples, but with values the units could relate to 
> anything. 
> Applying ususal MOQ zealotry to the rounding problem I think 
> you produce
> another kind of maths thats no bloody use to anyone.
> To be accurate you have to show some factor that allows the 
> two sides to
> be equated precisely by assigning relative values to the 
> different units
> as well as an element that specifies quantity.
> 
> So instead of saying 1+1=2 you have to say
> 
> a1+b1=c(a1+b1)
> where: 
> a = unrealised absolute value of apples, b = unrealised 
> absoute value of
> bananas c = absolute comparative value between apples and bananas. 
> 
> The observer assigns their own assumed values to the absolutes and
> everyone gets a different answer.
> In fact the more I think about it all I'm doing is 
> translating language
> into a less comprehensible numerical system of expression.  
> Its like you
> cant "solve" the equation at all, because to to be accurate every term
> you introduce has another unknowable (oxymoronic) dynamic "constant"
> applied to it and to its absolute relationship to the other terms. 
> 
> If you compare static patterns of different levels I think it 
> gets even
> worse as, as the terms are all derivatives of each other.
> 
> [Ron]
> That is why this Topos theory is so exciting, it is taking this into
> account by using a topology of micro sets as a dynamic value.. A
> measurement system which changes as the phenomena it is measuring
> Changes. It still is'nt "cathing the rainbow" but it puts it damn near
> right in your lap.
> It in effect is the closest method of obtaining a static pattern of
> dynamic quality yet.
> Comparable to to Pirsigs term "Quality". It's exciting 
> because it is one
> more argument for the accuracy of MOQ.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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