Hi Krim see comments below
> [David M] > I have no idea why you think the man made is > any less actual than any other actual. I see > it all as a contiuation of the pouring forth > started without human beings. Our world > of course drips in all this manmade stuff and > language. > > [Krimel] > I agree that man and his products grow out of and are part of nature. Thus > "man made" things are both natural and actual. But man made things are the > intrusion of our idealizations into nature. They are nature re-formed into > structures and functions that could never take shape in their own. In a > sense that world dripping with stuff and verbiage is a consensual > hallucination; to borrow a phrase from William Gibson. > DM: Hallucinations come and go, cultures are more substantial I'd say, but if you want to push your view why stop with the manmade why not say it is all hallucination? Of course the need for idealizations or thinking before human creation has asked many to wonder if nature requires the same. Seems to me a suggestion worth contemplating unless you are a paid up member of the secular faith. > [David M] > Conflict between different views is obvious, > views are more diverse than ever, we perhaps need > new ways to cope with this diversity? > > [Krimel] > I don't know tolerance has had a pretty good track record when it isn't in > short supply. It seems like you can usually increase tolerance by > decreasing polarization. I mean, can't we all just get along? > DM: I agree! moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
