[Arlo]

It makes no sense to me to call something "Quality", and then claim it
is "amoral" and has nothing to do with "betterness". Quality is by its
very conception a recognition that "some things are better than others",
that is they have "greater Quality". 

[Ron]

Here we get back to the same canundrum, quality in relation to what?  As
a generalization
betterness is subjective. better for what? me, you, life, death,
creation,destruction?

For me, (and otherswill quote Pirsig against me and question my
understanding of MOQ)
Quality pervades all,no betterness no worseness just ....value
indescriminate.
All we can know of it is our limited discriminate perception. 




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