all depends where you draw the line thinking/non-thinking.
One line shows us one set if differences/similarities, another
line shows another set. My point, too much 'thinking' and you'd
hit your thumb.

DM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Collective intelligence (Granger)


> David M,
>
> Thinking can cover a lot of activities. We specifically focus on things 
> that
> don't work but I like to think that the brain is engaged in some way while
> wielding a hammer. It may not be rational, verbal or focused but 
> information
> is being processed, don't you think?
>
> Krimel
> ------------------------------------
>
> Krim
>
> Heidegger suggested we think when we are faced by things that
> don't work, if the nails nail, we just get on with nailing
>
> DM
>
> ----------------------------------
>
>> [SA]
>>     Yes, this is what I enjoy about 'just sitting'.
>> Alert with this present moment is very relaxing, and
>> what I have to watch out for is when I'm done, I
>> caution myself in exploring too much in 'what just
>> happened' for it is still happening, but organization
>> tries to delay and slow 'things' down so I can process
>> all that is happening.  This latter occurance, though,
>> is found heavily at the job place.  At home or in the
>> woods, or even my garden, 'things' are not heavily
>> organized due to much more of the present moment being
>> experienced rather than the processing of the present
>> moment.  For instance, at home I don't need a mailbox
>> and voicemail to communicate with my wife.  Also, a
>> storm that occurred last week will still have its'
>> mark impressed upon the woods today.  At the
>> workplace, well, so much of what is happening now,
>> needs processed and organized now, the information
>> overload gets to the point that I'm not communicating
>> everything that's happening, I talk with the assistant
>> supervisor to relay messages, or I hope that staff
>> just understand what to do, but that's why the
>> workplace has a system in place to help catch these
>> 'things' and put them on hold until tomorrow, but I
>> still walk in the door in the AM or PM shift and have
>> questions asked to me where I say, "Oh yeah, let me
>> find that out for you, " or "This is what we do,
>> etc..."
>>
>> [Krimel]
>> I think most of us prefer to sit back and relax that to face the hassle 
>> of
>> work. But in terms of consciousness, awareness, full out functioning 
>> which
>> state do you really think is the higher level?
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