Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [Platt]
> Thanks. One more question. What do you find problematic in the following
> passage?
> 
> "One would hardly imagine that picking up a college physics textbook one is
> actually handling a religious document that has carefully been scrubbed
> clean of all dirty words such as intuition, eternity and Godhead. But the
> central concern of physical science  revolves around the concept of energy
> and its transformations, whether those transformations occur in molecules,
> biological systems, or computers. And how is the Energy described? It can be
> neither created nor destroyed, put together nor taken apart, and on the
> whole it is neither increasing or decreasing, remaining always constant.
> This, in fact, is the First Law of Thermodynamics. Further, the Energy of
> the universe, which remains forever constant, undergoes "transformations" or
> "manifestations, for all types of energy and matter, whether kinetic,
> thermal, or molecular, are spoken of as "Forms of Energy." As a matter a
> fact, all phenomena in the universe are nothing but forms of Energy, so that
> his Energy, more or less, underlies all material things. (Sunlight) This is
> pure physics, but it sounds strangely familiar, and one begins to wonder if
> we are discussing physics of Hinduism. Ultimately, it matters not one whit
> whether we say that all things are forms of Energy or forms of Brahman."
> (Ken Wilber, "The Spectrum of Consciousness,."p.185---parens added) .
> 
> [Krimel]
> I think this illustrates beautifully the trouble with Wilber.
> 
> He is going along fine. Who could argue with that and then POW:
> 
> "Ultimately, it matters not one whit whether we say that all things are
> forms of Energy or forms of Brahman." 
> -Ken Wilber, "The Spectrum of Consciousness,
> 
> It most certainly does matter. Hinduism has little more than metaphor to
> offer particle physicists. Who is the Hindu god of the weak force? 
> 
> BTW, I meant that sunlight is the force under girding life on earth not that
> it is fundamental to the cosmos.

Thanks. Have a good Memorial Day.

Platt



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