At 10:52 AM 6/5/2007, you wrote:

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>[Marsha]
>
>Freud?  Sigmund?  What you write sounds correct, but too, too,,,, too
>neat, too textbook, too static.  Okay, let's take it out of the author's
>personal perspective.  That seems to be a path nowhere since
>he is so well hidden.   But there is something there, something so
>obvious it can't be seen.  Or maybe it very, very scary...
>
>Or the talk can continue about TiTs.
>
>[Ron]
>to take the gender side out of it and look at what is trying to be
>illustrated
>I believe it was also illustrated with the story about dusenberry and
>the feast with
>the natives, where they opened a can of corn and he insisted no,no,no
>that's not how it's
>supposed to be. the natives laffed and said , "just like a white man,
>has to have everything
>just so". Dusenberry's preconception of what a traditional native
>gathering did not match what they were presenting and he did'nt like it.
>too neat? perhaps, maybe pirsig did'nt mean to emphisize this and I'm
>just seeing it. But,
>apon a re-reading I think this was his angle, he recreates the situation
>afew times with
>other characters. There is something to the accompaning storyline which
>runs paralell
>with his thoughts on James and Pragmatism and MOQ itself. I like believe
>Pirisig had more
>intent to his vehicle with a message in mind. but maybe I'm seeing
>things that were not
>intended.
>


Ron,

You may be correct.  It's a mistake to insist that the present adhere 
to preconceived notions.

Thanks for responding.

Marsha




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