[Micah] On an individual basis when I die reality, for me, no longer exists and what could exist for others is unknowable to me and irrelevant.
[Krimel] That is the most concise expression of the obscenity of Randian Objectivism I have heard yet. You live in your own world; but it certainly is relevant to me what happens to my children and grandchildren. I may or may not know what happens to them after my death but it matters now and to live otherwise is for me unthinkable. The Virtue of Selfishness, the squandering of natural resources, the spewing of filth into the world, these are the products of a childish and foolish system of thought. I am the current iteration of a process that has continued for four billion years. I didn't light the fire but I hope to help keep it burning. But hey, if that's your world, I am happy to just be a figment in it. [Micah] When all humans are gone, reality itself will no longer exist. That does not imply that humans control reality, just that reality exists only in the presence of humans. [Krimel] Aren't you a little old to be clinging to the sensorimotor stage. I hate to be the one to break it too you but when the ball goes behind the box it really is still there. [Micah] To say reality exists independent of humans would require humans to exist outside of reality, that is not possible...although it is constantly the basis of many statements made here. [Krimel] Do you pound the table with your shoe while you write this nonsense? Or did you mean this for the Yoga thread next door and it is some kind of mantra for you? moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
