On Thurs 7 June 2007 11:20:47 AM Ron writes to Joe: [Joe] This point of view is also expressed in esoteric literature.
[Ron] Joe, what exactly do you mean by "esoteric literature" you have used this term several times. Hi Ron and all, [Joe] The literature I am referring to is found in the works of George Gurdjieff, Peter Ouspensky, Maurice Nicoll, John Bennett, Rodney Collins. I think Rodney Collins for me expresses it best in his introduction to The Theory of Celestial Influence, p XII: "In fact, if we are in possession of certain keys for their interpretation, the most astonishing thing about these -ancient models of the universe- arising in widely separated ages, continents, and cultures, is precisely their similarity. So much so that a good case might be made out for the idea that -higher consciousness always reveals the same truth-, solely on the basis of a comparative study of certain existing models of the universe which seem to derive therefrom– for example the Cathedral of Chartres, the Great Sphinx, the New Testament, the Divine Comedy, or certain cosmic diagrams left by the 17th century alchemists, the designers of the Tarot pack, and the painters of some Russian ikons and Tibetan banners." IMO in such a broad statement, the writings found in moq-discuss would qualify as esoteric literature if they are ever remembered. Joe [Ron] do you term it as "The term esotericism refers to the doctrines or practices of esoteric knowledge, or otherwise the quality or state of being described as esoteric, or obscure.[1] Esoteric knowledge is that which is specialized or advanced in nature, available only to a narrow circle of "enlightened", "initiated", or highly educated people.[2] Items pertaining to esotericism may be known as esoterica.[3] Some interpretations of esotericism are very broad and include even unconventional and non-scientific belief systems. In contrast, exoteric knowledge is knowledge that is well-known or public." -wiki or "In Western, English-speaking societies today, the term "esotericism" has come to informally mean any knowledge that is difficult to understand or remember, such as theoretical physics, or that pertains to the minutiae of a particular discipline, such as "esoteric" baseball statistics. The term "esoteric" does not necessarily refer to "esotericism" per se in the sense of "inner" knowledge, disciplines, or practices." or are you terming to refer to the body of literature which pertains to "inner knowledge"? [Joe] This point of view is also expressed in esoteric literature. [Ron] Joe, what exactly do you mean by "esoteric literature" you have used this term several times. do you term it as "The term esotericism refers to the doctrines or practices of esoteric knowledge, or otherwise the quality or state of being described as esoteric, or obscure.[1] Esoteric knowledge is that which is specialized or advanced in nature, available only to a narrow circle of "enlightened", "initiated", or highly educated people.[2] Items pertaining to esotericism may be known as esoterica.[3] Some interpretations of esotericism are very broad and include even unconventional and non-scientific belief systems. In contrast, exoteric knowledge is knowledge that is well-known or public." -wiki or "In Western, English-speaking societies today, the term "esotericism" has come to informally mean any knowledge that is difficult to understand or remember, such as theoretical physics, or that pertains to the minutiae of a particular discipline, such as "esoteric" baseball statistics. The term "esoteric" does not necessarily refer to "esotericism" per se in the sense of "inner" knowledge, disciplines, or practices." or are you terming to refer to the body of literature which pertains to "inner knowledge"? thanks, moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
