[SA]
These Tits... and Maya, think of this, too, as
follows:  Who are we to say what is illusion, what is
objective, 

[Krimel]
We generate the illusion or the illusion is generated in us. It is ours and
we can call it what we will.

[SA]
and just because something is not readily
pumped through our heart, such as a tree branch, how
does this make a tree branch isolated and barbaric? 

[Krimel]
If a tree branch got pumped through my heart I don't reckon I would be
calling it anything past, "Oh crap, how'ed that happ..."

[SA]
Am I seeing old perspectives here when Tits are seen
as non-reality?  Or, am I mixing Micah's strict
individuality, and these 'others' up?  These 'others'
in politics are barbarians (old SOM perspective), in
religion it is illusion, in philosophy it can be a
tree can't be real cause it is outside my skin?  Is
this making sense to anybody else?

[Krimel]
For some what is in dispute is the fact of the tree. The fact of the
illusion is that for each of us the TiT tree coalescences into a pattern of
associations and experiences that form our understanding of the tree.

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