> [Krimel]
> Virtual reality aside this is a very difficult point, this experience =
> reality business. I whole heartedly agree that all we have is our 
> individual
> experience, our individual realities. But I am equally willing to say,
> purely as a matter of faith, that I believe we have experience "OF"
> something. That our realities are constructed as representations "OF"
> something. Call it TiTs. Call it objectivity. Call it Other. But when the
> Hindus speak of Maya and the world as illusion I would say they are
> referring to the confusion we experience when we confuse our individual
> representation with that indefinable stuff that is independent of us. I 
> like
> to think of it as DQ.
>

DM: Yes, and we only experience that which changes us (photons hitting
(aggressive sods!) eyes), or changes something that changes us (electron
microscope), hence DQ it is, and repetitive changes are SQ.
I agree, there's gotta be something causing these changes in us, and making
sense of this whilst staying alive is the whole shebang. 

[Krimel]
It is refreshing to hear you say this. It is one thing to argue about what
this means but it is truly frustrating to be continuously discussing whether
it "is".

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