Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Platt > > Recent advancements increase the intensity and quality of all sorts of > things. > More arrete(acute) has been injected on all sides - but unfortuamtely this > also > means that we increase the quality of the things that we dont like. (judge > stupidity from stupidity's standards not erudition's) > We also become far "better" at being ignorant, "better" at being beligerant, > prejudiced and artless. Can we say that the most shoddily constructed cheapest > product possible is absolutely the "best" (highest quality) one available in > the > eyes of the ruthless fat cat counting his resultant fortune? > > All these things are "better" according to their own standards, but what of > the > whole? > If the social elements that are "improved" are not condusive to intelectual > emergence/re-enforcement, then they are bad and "advancement" will only drive > us > backwards. > > That said "us" is a big group - If the tv is crap, turn it off. > Would you say that you are reaching a higher level of insight through these > online > discussions as compared to what you would be able to achieve through written > correspondence? How would any of us have even met in the first place?
Your point if I understand it right is that with advances in technology we (as a broad generality) have become wiser intellectually in spite of being exposed to a lot more low quality biological and social patterns. If that's a correct summary of your view, I respectfully disagree. I see little evidence of an increased intellectual acumen over previous generations. As for this group, it's the exception. I've personally learned a lot here. For that I'm indeed grateful to technology. Regards, Platt > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 13 June 2007 13:40 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Trouble With Wilber > > > > > > Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > All this while virtually ignoring the emergence of real > > expanded awareness > > > and consciousness that is booming around us in the form of > > cell phones, > > > instant messaging, e-mail, Google Earth, GPS, webcams, Alternative > > > Intelligences, the expansion of identical shared memory in > > the form of film > > > and voice recording and the sum total of human knowledge > > instantly available > > > at the touch of a button. All of this higher level > > consciousness emerges > > > specifically from the direction of rational thinking > > suggested by Piaget > > > whom Wilber butchers while you applaud. > > > > You invited me to jump into the discussion you are having > > with DMB, but since > > DMB is more than holding his own I see no reason to. But, I > > couldn't help but > > point out in your description above of "expanded awareness" > > that you cited > > only the means by which awareness has spread horizontally but > > nothing about > > the meanings or depth of understanding of this broader > > dispersion of data brought > > about by technology. There is precious little evidence that > > the new gimmicks > > of communication have made us any wiser or brought us to a > > "higher level of > > consciousness." Expansion in breadth doesn't promise > > penetration in depth. Flatland > > is not conducive to insight. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
