Platt, Nowhere, I repeat nowhere Platt have I even remotely attempted to defend any such system. Read and stop inventing strawmen - windmills to tilt at.
(If you wanna know what I think of the UK health service, read James Willis and my comments about his work - he could tell us all a thing or two about the UK health service - and not a number in sight - immedate empirical human knowledge.) All I do in your case, is attack your dishonest hypocritical logic, premeditated evil on your part. You call it ad-hominem. I call it dirty work that needs doing. You keep doin' it, I'm afraid I'll have to keep attacking it. The time for passive ignorance is passed. The difference between us Platt, in line with Ant's comment about "what we want for the world" ... is that I want to improve health in the world, and you want to pick a fight and argue "mine's bigger than yours". Grow up and get a life beyond the schoolyard. I could go on ... the idea that press headlines are "real life" ! Gimme strength. Ian On 6/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Ha, nice one Platt, > > > > In your rush to turn everything into a liberal vs conservative agenda > > - in your new found specialist role as commentator on NHS issues in > > the British press (two subjects in which I suspect you are a novice - > > don't talk to me about quality in immediate aesthetic experience when > > it suits you - you contemptible evil fraud) - you miss the fact that > > this forum is about philosophical issues - not headlines that sell > > copy. > > So philosophy has nothing to do with everyday life? > > > The real point is that the terms "as a result of" and "caused by" are > > just useless concepts for intelligent debate about an issue like this. > > And statistics ? ... nuff said. > > Why is cause and effect "useless concepts" when talking about health care? > As for statistics, they are always suspect, but used by government bureaucrats > to run our lives. > > > I really do not care whether the UK stats are "better" (ie bigger or > > smaller, nothing to do with quality, notice) than Italy, Austria, USA, > > Costa Rica or Slovenia. What I care about is debate that improves > > decision-making in health care - or any complex human situation, > > anywhere. Your agenda is much more obvious and stuck in an ancient rut > > Platt. > > What's really in a rut is your defense of a failed system. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
