[Ron] I thought this snip from "Emergent properties & processes" sounded a lot like Pirsigs description of the four levels.
[Arlo] I've long argued that the MOQ is an emergentist metaphysics. [Ron] Has anyone else connected/compared Emergence with MOQ? I do know there are those who object to the idea, I find it interesting though that Pirsigs levels can be accepted although the idea of emergence, particularly as it applies to consciousness is in hot debate. [Arlo] At the risk of excluding anyone, Ian, Krimel and myself have for quite a while supported (more or less) the emergentist paradigm in the MOQ. Platt, of course, relies on his "oops" soundbite in an attempt to ridicule the idea, but that mischaracterization has been addressed numerous times, most eloquently and most frequently by Krimel. If you haven't read it, the book "Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software" by Steven Johnson is very MOQ-compatible (not to mention enlightening in its own regard). moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
