Ron and you mentioned sacredness before.  I
remember Ron akined sacredness to betterness.  I'm
looking for a trigger, a stimulas to understand what
sacredness is in accord with betterness, thus, a
dynamic understanding to moral force.

SA


     [Marsha]
> So how do you get to the _betterness_?  I'm not
> being sarcastic, I 
> think this is an excellent place to investigate.
> There are the 
> present patterns, the past patterns and the future
> patterns.  They 
> are all connected to each other and changing.  Is
> there a better way 
> to look at the situation?  What is to be done?
> 
> Is it that the GOOD, is what it is?   Then, what
> next?
> 
> Are these the wrong questions to ask?
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> At 04:22 PM 6/20/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Ron,
> >
> >What do you think about Bill O'Reily's recent
> comment, "... there
> >will be unintended consequences [of the Immigration
> Bill] all over
> >the place. The new census report says America's now
> one-third
> >minority. And in four states -- California, New
> Mexico, Texas, and
> >Hawaii -- whites are the minority." (Bill
> O'Reilly)?
> >
> >Does this (whites becoming the minority) give you,
> as it does Platt,
> >cause for concern?
> >
> >The Klan may be less than it once was, but it
> rhetoric of fear and
> >xenophobia have been usurped by politicians seeking
> to create and
> >endless stream of "others" who seek to destroy you,
>  and from whom
> >only The Party can give you defense. (This was a
> basic premise of the
> >BBC miniseries "The Power of Nightmares", thanks
> again to Khaled for
> >bringing it to my attention).
> >
> >As for the Italian Mafia, we are infatuated with
> them. Whether The
> >Sopranos or "Say hello to my little friend" (in a
> mock Italian
> >accent), and tell-all books from former mob
> affiliates routinely make
> >the top 10 list. Grand Theft Auto games bristle
> with mob jokes, hits
> >and give you the ability in instances to recreate
> famous (sometimes
> >fictional) mob history (like the Vice City ending
> that parallels Scarface.
> >
> >On a side note, there is ""Left Behind: Eternal
> Forces", a video game
> >where "you are on a mission - both a religious
> mission and a military
> >mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews,
> Muslims, Buddhists,
> >gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of
> church and state -
> >especially moderate, mainstream Christians." And I
> hear the Islamic
> >terrorists have developed video games, for training
> purposes we are
> >told, where in kind of polar opposition to the
> Splinter Cell games,
> >their mission is to save the world from U.S.
> encroachment.
> >
> >Anyway, this is the world we live in thanks to the
> "nightmare
> >politicians" and the never-ceasing rhetoric of
> xenophobia that has
> >darkened our landscape, indeed the world's
> landscape, since at least
> >the 80s. While there have always been wing-nuts
> (see the history of
> >marijuana legislation in The Emperor Wears No
> Clothes, a collusion
> >between big industry (the DuPonts) and racism
> wielded to protect
> >their investment via fear), the current shift from
> fringe wing-nutism
> >to mainstream wing-nutism has fueled an explosion
> in "fear of the
> >other". Many have tried to mainstream racism
> itself, either promoting
> >it as a "natural state" of human beings, or as a
> "non-violent
> >science", or in many cases simply attacking
> manifestations of
> >diversity while claiming to be tolerant ("Ban the
> Hijab!", for example).
> >
> >I'm reminded of the classic George Carlin skit.
> "You ever notice that
> >everyone driving faster than you of the freeway is
> an asshole? And
> >everyone who is driving slower than you is an
> idiot? Its amazing we
> >ever get anywhere with alll the assholes and idiots
> on the road."
> >
> >Its amazing we ever get anywhere with all the [fill
> in a list of your
> >favorite racial and ethnic slurs, including those
> against your own
> >kind] on the road. Isn't it?
> >
> >
> >Arlo
> >
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