Krimel, and Platt, If I may just put your point on hold Krim ... the idea that "synchronicity IS causality" ... let's just say time and causation are seriously weird concepts when you get right down to them - beyond Platt's "every-day common-sense" view that causation is kinda obvious.
Platt, you behave and you'll find I'll behave ;-) You asked (leaving out the sarky master-baiting) "... synchronicities as related to DQ .... can you explain their relationship to evolutionary psych?" Two levels ... Firstly, that Jung (and follower like Maslow) also made the same connections. Secondly, I guess I saying that what we see as time and causation is a culturally conditioned (evolved psychology - "everyday common sense") of how we have rationalized what we think we see. As Pirsig points out other "non-western" cultures have quite different takes on both time (the apparent order or relative direction of time between things that appear to happen) and causation (dependency, yes, but not necessarily all one way.) I've not analysed any link between the first and second points. Ian On 6/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi Platt, > > You bet I've made that connection. > > > > Blogged about it several (5 or 6 ?) years ago after meeting two > > Cambridge University professors in a bar (The Pickerell, no ordinary > > bar - adjacent to their college, Magdelene) discussing ZMM & Lila, > > whilst I was sitting within earshot, reading Lila. Turned out one of > > the two had previously also been a lecturer at Berkeley and had > > "taught" ZMM (though I never did work out what context.) > > > > The real synchronicity, was not the conversational coincidence, but > > the fact that one of them suggested I should follow-up synchronicity > > (and Alexander) as related subjects. Apart from the idea that > > synchronicity "suggests" underlying invsible "causal" connections, the > > line leads to Jungian psychological typing, Malsow and evolutionary > > psychology - the latter of course being the source of those > > connections (provide we can overcome the knee-jerk prejudice against > > the whole evo-psych subject as a dirty word.) > > > > (My blog is full of mentions synchonicities, people often poke fun at > > them, and there are references to synchronicity in my 2005 conference > > paper, and on my Pirsig-Pages.) > > Ian > > Glad to see we both see synchronicities as related to DQ. At the risk of > evoking an insult, can you explain their relationship to evolutionary psych? > > Thanks. > Platt > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
