Hi Ron, Thanks for posting these quotes.
Marsha At 09:26 AM 7/13/2007, you wrote: >[Khaled] > > >If the rules are set so that no religion has a stronghold on society, >then it won't matter who gets into power, the God value is set to nil >and all can live. > >[Ron] >Khaled, I saw the senate debacle too, It was embarrasing. Good post. I'd >like to add >some quotes from the founding fathers of the United States. (mostly >Thomas Jefferson) > >President James Madison - "A just government has no need for the clergy >or the church." > > >President John F. Kennedy "I believe in an America where religious >intolerance will someday end... where every man has the same right to >attend or not attend the church of his choice." > >"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are >twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor >breaks my leg." >Thomas Jefferson quoted by Gerard Straub in >"Salvation for Sale" > >"In every country and in every age, the priest has been >hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the >despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection >to his own" >Thomas Jefferson, 1814 > >"Our particular principles of religion are >a subject of accountability to our god alone. >I enquire after no man's and trouble none with mine; >nor is it given to us in this life to know whether yours or mine, >our friend's or our foe's, are exactly the right." >Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) >Source: letter to Miles King, September 26, 1814 > >May [the Declaration of Independence] be to the world, >what I believe it will be (to some parts sooner, to >others later, but finally to all), the signal of arousing >men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance >and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, >and to assume the blessings and security of >self-government. That form which we have substituted, >restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of >reason and freedom of opinion. All eyes are opened, >or opening, to the rights of man. >Thomas Jefferson > >Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious >opinions, any more than our opinions in physics >or geometry. >Thomas Jefferson > >"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden >people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the >lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as >religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own >purposes." >Thomas Jefferson >Source:Letter to Alexander von Humboldt, 1813 > >"All forms of religion have united for the first time to diffuse charity >and piety, >because for the first time in the history of nations all have been >totally >untrammeled and absolutely free." >Martin Van Buren >Source:Second Annual Message to Congress, 3 December 1838 > >Let it be henceforth proclaimed to the world that man's conscience >was created free; that he is no longer accountable to his fellow man >for his religious opinions, being responsible therefore only to his God >John Tyler > > >moq_discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
