Bo, DMB, Marco,  primarily..but not necessarily in that order, or exclusively,

Methinks ya all doth protest too much!  You  defend your "patterns" admirably, but in 
an effort to
"stick to [the topic], [with a minimum]  wandering, waffling or walloping "  I'll 
start again with
the program.

" Of all the levels, the one that seems to create the most confusion or appear most 
obscure is 
the intellectual level. What exactly is it? What are its values? What are its goals? 
How does 
it manifest itself? Why should intellectual level values prevail over social level 
values? Are 
intelligence and intellectual value the same thing.
In short, define the intellectual level."

I think we all agree, and our posts to date indicate, that the intellectual level is 
most obscure
and confusing. I will confess that when I suggested "patternmaker" it didn't seem 
quite right but
for the life of me at that time I could think of a better description.  

What exactly is it?
How about pattern "mediator" ?

The intellect, or intellectual level, is the medium which evaluates, orders, conveys, 
communicates,
reconciles, and archives patterns of value.

What are its values?
On the indivdual level, your evaluations of quality as filtered by the static pattern 
of your life
history.  In the broadest sense, the congregate of all individual evaluations of 
quality.

How does it manifest itself?
With everything from an angry word, to a tender sigh.

Why should intellectual level values prevail over social level values?
Because it's better that way. Big Bob down at the motorcycle shop told me so.

Are intelligence and intellectual value the same thing?
No, intelligence is an intellectual pattern of values,  a theory, which attempts to 
correlate
certain mental qualities with the ability to evaluate, order, convey, communicate, 
reconcile, and
archive patterns of value.

In short, define the intellectual level."

           The intellect, or intellectual level, is the medium which orders, conveys, 
communicates,
reconciles, and      archives patterns of value.

3WD

PS: 
DMB, the spacing of the last line is further proof of your intellectual theory of a 
vast "right wing
justified" conspiracy. You will have to research the "phantom deletion" with Ant, or 
Bo as I think he
may have originally posted it, or at least he reposted a clear copy . But I still find 
it odd that
you, as the prime purveyor of MoQ mysticism, should in the end fall back on logic as 
the ultimate
discriminator. 

BO: You go on correcting the master this way: "Intellect is THE pattern that says 
'there is an external
world of things out there which are independent  of SOCIAL patterns'" and he's liable 
to rap you on
the knuckles.  He said (unless the right wing justifiers co-opted him) "there is an 
external world
of things out there which are independent of intellectual patterns" and those 
"external world of
things" are ALL patterns except our own individual patterns and sometimes even those 
drift away.




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