Bo, 3DW, David and gang,
Below is the full quote that I have. Note that it has, as David suspected,
been completely garbled over time. Sorry if I am to blame for this
desecration. I think the original unadulterated quote makes sense. Especially
the last sentence of the first paragraph.
I will say that I think there is still a ton of confusion among various
members on REALITY -- which is pure Quality -- and patterns of REALITY --
which are simplified, sliced and diced subjective and objective intellectual
divisions of the undifferentiated seamless continuum. You are right Bo, the
Intellectual level is the great divider.
Below is the full quote in proper order:
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"The section in chapter 3 (in ZMM) about gravity points out
that the body of knowledge we call science is in fact
subjective. The law of gravity exists only in the minds of
modern-day people, who can change this law any time new
information shows that a higher quality law of gravity can
be constructed. Einstein did so very recently. Other
changes may come. The sentence, "There are no things in
themselves outside experience" is true but the MOQ sees
experience differently from subject-object metaphysics.
Experience in a SOM is an action of the object upon the
subject. In the MOQ, experience is pure Quality which
gives rise to the creation of intellectual patterns which
in turn produce a division between subjects and objects.
Among these patterns is the intellectual pattern that says
"there is an external world of things out there which are
independent of intellectual patterns".
That is one of the highest quality intellectual patterns
there is. And in this highest quality intellectual
pattern, external objects appear historically before
intellectual patterns...
But this highest quality intellectual pattern itself comes
before the external world, not after, as is commonly
presumed by the materialists. If the law of gravity
preceded the concept of the law of gravity, by, say, 3.5
billion years, then what happens to that 3.5 billion year
old entity, when someone like Einstein changes the law of
gravity? Does that mean that what happened 3.5 billion
years ago has to change retroactively? Thats amazing how
Einstein can change something that existed 3.5 billion
years before he was born. Even the fake Hindu swamis don't
claim to have that power.
....both the "law of gravity" and "gravity" are
intellectual static patterns, but gravity (when you take
the quotation marks off) is said, in a very high quality
interpretation of experience, to be an external reality."
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BTW, it has been a long time...... I have been busier than ever lately
extending the MOQ into some new uncharted waters. I am attempting to better
explain the process of pattern emergence and to show how the levels transcend
each other. Unfortunately (or is it fortunately?), my pursuits have released
a landslide of new insights that I can't supress. My writing is evolving
from a brief paper to mini-book. Hopefully at least a few of my insights
will be worthwhile......
I miss you all,
Rog
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