Hey Mark and all, In response to Mark's request for textual context, I would offer the following....
PIRSIG (SODV--- discussing his MoQ diagram): "In the third box are the biological patterns: senses of touch, sight hearing, smell and taste. The Metaphysics of Quality follows the empirical tradition here in saying that the senses are the starting point of reality, but -- all importantly -- it includes a sense of value. Values are phenomena. To ignore them is to misread the world. It says this sense of value, of liking or disliking, is a primary sense that is a kind of gatekeeper for everything else an infant learns. At birth this sense of value is extremely Dynamic but as the infant grows up this sense of value becomes more and more influenced by accumulated static patterns. In the past this biological sense of value has been called the "subjective" because there values cannot be located in an external physical object. But quantum theory has destroyed the idea that only properties located in external physical objects have reality." R This quote is typical of a thread that runs throughout out Pirsig's thoughts in LILA and on the MoQ in general. Pirsig often makes reference to a 'sense of betterness' (like with the Brujo) or a 'sense of quality' (like with Lila). Now, I am not qualified to pronounce on whether quantum theory has destroyed the idea that only properties located in external physical objects have reality, but my own 'sense of quality' tells me that there is something weird about the idea presented above. Unfortunately, I'm a little pressed for time tonight, but on Saturday I will send a post detailing my problems with the above. take care rick MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_focus/ MF Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from moq_focus follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/mf/subscribe.html
