I think that possibly the thinking may be that at these early levels the
text is entirely supported by the pictures and once names and such are
planted, many kids could effectively 'retell' without have effectively read.

Lori


On 5/22/08 11:16 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You bring up some great points.... my first graders love non-fiction and
> find it easier to comprehend than fiction. In fiction, you have conversation,
> tone, symbolism, play on words blah, blah, blah..... nonfiction  has the
> infrastructure built into the genre that really reveals to kids how to
> comprehend....... I wish nonfiction was included at every level. .. but
> especially the 
> emergent levels.... maybe Joetta will read the post:)
>  
> I too have questions about scaffolding summaries.... especially the written
> ones at the second grade level... what is the point of them being written if
> they really are literal retells... unless you are also evaluating the
> writing.
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 5/22/2008 10:50:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> It is hard for me to
> understand why there isn't a nonfiction  text at  every level starting with
> level 4. 
> It is even more difficult for  me  to understand the reason behind not
> allowing students to look back during  the  retell at the early levels, but
> when they 
> get to the scaffolded  summaries, they  are allowed to look back.
> Maxine
> Literacy  Consultant
> 
> 
> In a message dated 5/22/2008 8:02:54 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> We ask  our  teachers to stop at level 20 with first grade but they do have
> an
> opportunity to report their instructional   levels.
> 
> Lori
> 
> 
> On 5/22/08 6:49 AM, "Nancy Wittner"   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> In response to  the  question about giving the DRA2 level M to first
>>  graders.  Just an  FYI, I attended a DRA2 training given by Joetta  Beaver
>> in  November.  She specifically stated that the DRA2  cut off is one  grade
>> level above the student's current  grade.  Maybe the answer  is exactly what
>> you were seeing  with the difference between the oral  comprehension and
>>  written.  
>> I gave the DRA2 to a  Kindergartener would could  decode at level M/28 but
>> would not have  been able to answer the  comprehension questions so I
>> stopped at level  16.
>> Would  it be possible to stop at level L/24?
>> 
>>  Thanks 
>>  Nancy
>> Reading Coach
>> Gene Witt  Elementary
>>  
>> 
>> School District of Manatee County
>>  
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