Hi,
I have been reading all the posts and basically agreeing with what  
everyone has been saying - even when the posts were contradictory!  I  
think that different readers require different types of instruction,  
and that our challenge is to understand the needs of our learners and  
teach accordingly.  I think most readers learn best in context.   
However,  some children need explicit skill work, and then need  
explicit instruction in how to apply the skills they are learning to  
the reading process.  I have found that the more a student struggles,  
the more explicit I need to be.  Some students who appear to be over  
phonicated, have actually not become automated enough so that they can  
leave the decoding stage.  Lifting the words off the page requires so  
much cognitive energy that there is nothing left over for constructing  
meaning.  My analogy is that I am athletically challenged.  Immersing  
me in softball did not help me to improve my game, although most of my  
friends improved.  I would have required much more specific  
instruction on how to catch and hit a ball in order to become barely  
adequate.  Consequently, I can still not play softball.
Sorry I rambled,
Linda

On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Beverlee Paul wrote:

> And I would add that Renee's comment about addressing phonics in a  
> meaningful way is one of the key reasons Don Holdaway "invented"  
> shared reading.  Basically anything that can be done in isolated  
> phonics instruction can be "delivered" through quality shared  
> reading experiences, which laces phonics into meaning.  That sends a  
> whole different message to a kid about what phonics is for.
>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:00:59  
>> -0700> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC]  
>> phonemic awareness/segmentation help wanted> > > On Jun 23, 2008,  
>> at 8:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > I have been thinking about  
>> this post since it came up. When we are > > teaching phonological  
>> awareness and phonics, aren't we still teaching > > meaning? My  
>> interpretation of what we are doing with this instruction, > > is  
>> always based on meaning.> > No, I don't think so... not  
>> particularly. I just finished a year in a > Kindergarten in which  
>> the head teacher definitely did not include > meaning in  
>> practically any of her phonics/phonemic awareness > activities. It  
>> was nearly all isolated, without context. How much > meaning is  
>> there in DIBELS assessments that require students to bark > out  
>> nonsense syllables in record time? If the argument here is that >  
>> isolated phonics instruction LEADS to meaning, that it is a step in  
>> the > process of reading for meaning, then I would say it would be  
>> just as > easy to address phonics and phonemic awareness in a  
>> meaningful way, in > context, as PART OF the whole reason for  
>> reading in the first place.> > My two cents.> Renee> > "We are here  
>> to infiltrate space with ideas."> ~ Ramtha> > > >  
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