With all due respect (and Pat, I am not criticizing you personally so
please do not take this personally), a district is made up of
teachers. "The district" is teachers. Every district I have worked in
(three) has had an assessment committee that makes these decisions.
When I begged to be on the assessment committee a few years ago, I
fought tooth and nail to have the fluency "speed numbers" balanced
with prosidy. What happened is that the numbers were lowered and the
ranges of proficient, etc. were made larger, to take prosidy into
account.
It is TEACHERS who need to argue and fight and beg for these changes.
If EVERY primary teacher in a district argued about this, certainly
it would at least be looked at.
Renee..... waving another pink slip.
On Mar 14, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Patricia Kimathi wrote:
While, I agree with you, I find that my district test for speed and
we must report these test results, they stay on the children's
records (sadly).
Pat Kimathit
On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:43 AM, jan sanders wrote:
Why do people (is it the "program makers") link speed with
fluency? To me, fluency is cadence, and reading so it sounds like
we talk. Have you ever had a conversation with someone who talks
fast? They make me tired. It is not normal. I never used any
bought program, but rather had children read like we talk. They
would tape themselves and listen, then reread the same passage if
it needed more work. Also, many times students struggle with
fluency because they are reading above their independent level,
usually their instructional level, and they have "work" to do with
the text.
Another point... there are times when I read aloud when I don't
have a clue what I read. My brain was not engaged in the meaning
of the words, I just read them out loud.
Jan
"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about
learning how to dance in the rain." BJ Gallagher
From: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:22:10 -0500
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency
In a message dated 3/10/2010 11:59:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Could you give me a reference for that research?
So I'm behind on email, but don't see a response. I find often that
something that is supposedly "supported by lots of research," is
kind of like the
telephone game. Everyone has heard that there is, but no one
quite can
pinpoint it. Just the fact that people say there is research
makes it so? I
agree with Maureen. I have seen a lot of evidence that often
students who read
slowly and methodically with prosidy, rereading and thinking
carefully,
are way better at comprehension than those who are trying to
beat the egg
timer.
Nancy
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