You are right on!
Dale Marie
On Sep 15, 2010, at 6:59 PM, [email protected] wrote:

I don't administer the WIDA. The ELL teacher does so I really can't speak to it. I think that the two tests are apples and oranges and for different purposes.
S


-----Original Message-----
From: Licette Morales <[email protected]>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group <[email protected] >
Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] data collection for analysis


How do you like using the WIDA? Do you think it is more accurate than the
DRA? IS it easier to use?

Thanks

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Hoffmann Dale Marie <[email protected] >wrote:

Yes, our district also uses the WIDA assessments.

On Sep 14, 2010, at 1:04 PM, [email protected] wrote:


I know that many teachers have abandoned the DRA because it can be
time
consuming especially in the upper grades. There is a written
component for
grades 4 and up (grade 3 has an optional one I believe). Even though
it may
take some students about an hour to complete, I feel that the
information I
get about the students is crucial to drive my instruction. I don't
really
like that the engagement piece is worth so many points but I take
that into
consideration when looking at it. Our district uses the WIDDA for ELL
assessment.
Sue

-----Original Message-----
From: Hoffmann Dale Marie <[email protected]>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group <
[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 6:41 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] data collection for analysis


What ELL assessment do you give your ELL's.
Dale Marie
On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Valerie Vitalo wrote:

Just curious as to why districts have abandoned DRA's. We give the >

DRA-2 3 times per year in grades k-5 We give phonological > awareness
tests and sightword inventories to all of our kidin > 1,2,and 3 and
in K
later on in the year. We have periodic writing > assessments with
district-wide prompts that match a writing calendar > for units for
the
district. Teacher give running records to > students when they are
considering moving to the next guided reading > level. There is an
ELL
evaluation at the beginning and end of year > also. They continually
add
asessments. Classroom teachers do some > of it and the lit team for
the
building does the rest. We get a > really comprehensive picture of
these
little guys before we group > and continually regroup as necessary.

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, Jan Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Jan Sanders <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] data collection for analysis
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"

<[email protected]> >

Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 6:46 PM


In our district the teacher gives a running record to each student

and

submits the data to the principal.
Plusses and minuses for teacher or team to assess. Teacher knows the
student as a reader instantly after the assessment, but not all >

teachers

administer it the same, although there was a major training 6 years


ago.

Each year they are given the criteria, a reminder of how to assess,


and can

watch a video of a lit coach giving the assessment.

Jan
You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to


your

grandmother.
-Albert Einstein



On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Betsy Lafontant
<[email protected]>wrote:

My school using a fairly low-tech but effective means of assessing
the
students' reading progress. At the start of the year, the Student


Support

Services team (which consisted of ESOL, Learning Support, and the >>

school

counselor) tested the reading abilities of each child in our >>

elementary

school using a running record. The tester started where the >>

student tested

out at then of last year or for new students, where the classroom >>

teacher

believes is the student's reading level. It took two intense weeks
for
the
SSS team and lots of pullouts for the classroom teacher. But at
the end
we
had a comprehensive data on each child's reading levels. This >>

process is

repeated at the end of the year to track progress and to reflect on
our
teaching practice and methods.

This is the third year my school is doing this. The first year it


was a

bit
of a mess because some testers had different "lens" on when they

were

testing. Some put more emphasis on fluency while others only >>

tested for

comprehension. In the second year, the testing team met every day to
discuss the process, streamline and normalize their practice. In >>

the third

year, this process is sleek, fast and the end product, the data, is
extremely valuable to the classroom teacher.

For writing, we have a writing test. With a common prompt, each >>

child

writes a story. No names are on the writing test. Then the >>

writing tests

are divided among the classroom teachers and are scored using a >>

rubric

based
on the 6 traits (ideas, sentence fluency, mechanics, voice, >>

organization

and
word choice). This data is collected and used to drive the
classroom
instruction for each child. Like the reading, this process is >>

repeated

towards the end of the year.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Jeana Wise >>

<[email protected]

wrote:


What types of data does your schools collect for anaylsis? My >>>

district is

using Aimsweb, but I am thinking that other forms of data may be
helpful
when looking at interventions for our struggling students. My >>>

district no

longer gives the DRA, either.

Jeana Wise
K-4 Literacy Coach
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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