I appreciate Jennifer bringing this to the surface.  I like WTW and other word 
attach strategies.  My thoughts concerning this topic are more toward 
authenticity.  Wouldn't students learn better through their own invented 
spelling and writing opportunities.  Writing conferences and individualized 
dictionaries are a great way for students to connect their spelling to their 
own writing and to see their growth in this area.
Debbie Hopp



-----Original Message-----
From: Palmer, Jennifer <jennifer.pal...@hcps.org>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
<mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
Sent: Sun, Oct 14, 2012 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] spelling


There is something that is not being considered in this discussion, and that is 
the relationship between encoding and decoding and the developmental nature of 
spelling. 

Remember that children understand language (Speech) before they can use it 
themselves...there is a hierarchy here. Babies understand the word "no" before 
they can say "no" and that hierarchy continues with phonics and spelling. 
Students can generally read words before they can spell them. 

Developmentally, students should NOT be learning to spell words that they are 
learning to read...in fact, when you read  Words their Way, you realize that in 
word study they work with words that they can already read...and sometimes 
there 
are words the student can also spell already to help students make 
connections--compare/contrast words and spelling principles that are already 
known with the new idea that is being learned. 

It is through the word sorts that students are supposed to be given 
opportunities to experiment with sorts, talk to each other and develop their 
understandings of how words work. There are written sorts as well as those that 
the children read and sort words...and the written sorts reinforce the reading 
connection. Sorts really only work to develop spelling skills if they are using 
words that the students are ready to learn...(thus the developmental 
assessments 
provided by WTW), and the teacher uses already known words/spelling 
generalizations and contrasts them to the new generalization being studied. 


. 

Jennifer L. Palmer, Ed. D.

Instructional Facilitator

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From: mosaic-bounces+jennifer.palmer=hcps....@literacyworkshop.org 
[mosaic-bounces+jennifer.palmer=hcps....@literacyworkshop.org] on behalf of 
Conner-Righter, Mary [mrigh...@pennsvalley.org]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:42 AM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] spelling

Pam,
I am totally with you on this.  I also use the OG approach, but try to
assimilate it to the study the students are doing in class. (I'm a Title I
Rdg Spec) There is a sequence with OG that really makes sense.  We throw so
much at students in the core programs - it is all over the map, bits and
pieces, and this and that.  There is usually no explanation as to why a
particular phonogram is being used in a word, such as, -tch or -ck.
Are you using the green OG manual for your lessons? Do you teach the
students coding?
WTW can certainly reinforce the skills, but reading and writing words are
the best way to get students to master the patterns.
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