It doesn't help to close with "respectfully" when the entire preceding text is 
dripping with passive aggressiveness, condescension, and disrespect.

Perhaps this would be a good time for you to form a new group, parallel to 
Mosaic, to promote The Science of Letter, Sound, and Word Study in the Reading 
Process.

On May 2, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Amy McGovern <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
> What I mean by my comment Jennifer is that rather than going to meaning 
> first, we work on learning to decode the patterns of the English language 
> using Fundations as a source for systematic and explict phonics instruction.  
> The phonics lesson is linked to a decodable text.  The goal is to always read 
> for meaning.  If one cannot decode the text accurately then reading progress 
> is stilted, to say the least. I agree fully that meaning making and word 
> study are linked.   English is a  morpho-phonemic language.  
> The students in Fundations have the opportunity to practice a phonics skill 
> in isolation, then apply the skill in text within the 20 to 30 minute lesson. 
>   
> 
> If the the child comes to word they are unsure of, the prompt is: look 
> through the word. Sound it out.  Does it make sense?
> 
> This is not philosophy.  It's the science of reading.  Going right to meaning 
> first, relying on picture cues, telling the student to look at the first 
> letter and think about what makes sense are all ineffective strategies for at 
> risk readers.   Furthermore, The research on systematic and explicit phonics 
> instruction is solid.  It is impossible to be systematic if the teacher is 
> only focusing on what the child is struggling with rather than following a 
> logical sequence that promotes generalizations and empowers both decoding and 
> comprehension.  The three cueing system is broken and not supported by the 
> science of reading. Check out Speech to Print by Louisa Moats or Overcoming 
> Dyslexia by Sally Shaywitz if you need more proof.
> 
> We know more about struggling readers than we've ever known before.  I HIGHLY 
> recommend that you look into LETRS training:  Language Essentials for 
> Teachers of Reading and Spelling. Excellent stuff...not based on any programs 
> either.  With all due respect, I'm done with philosophy Jennifer.  Quite 
> frankly, we all should be.  This is not about what you or I believe.  We have 
> too many failing students to hang our hat on old strategies that don't work 
> for the most at-risk students.  Fundations works. My teachers are all 
> balanced lit teachers and they are seeing huge gains in their students~well 
> beyond what we ever got with Words Their Way and classic Guided Reading 
> alone.  
> 
> Respectfully,
> Amy 
> 
> 
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 21:50:01 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] DIBELS
>> 
>> Amy...we've had this discussion before. I respect your philosophy of reading 
>> but it's different from mine.
>> You can't teach word study separate from meaning in my philosophy of 
>> reading. Where we can meet in the middle is by saying Fundations does not 
>> stand alone. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 1, 2013, at 1:06 PM, "Amy McGovern" 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Fundations is not intended to teach meaning cues. It is a word study 
>>> program that links encoding and decoding. It is designed to supplement core 
>>> instruction. It does not stand alone. 
>>> 
>>> I have five teachers using it this year k-2. Our core is balanced lit. All 
>>> of them really like it. They are seeing growth with their lowest students 
>>> for whom we need to solidify these foundational skills. 
>>> 
>>> Foundations is effective. Again, it is supplemental systematic and explicit 
>>> word study instruction. 
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Amy 
>>> Reading Specialist
>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 00:44:07 +0000
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] DIBELS
>>>> 
>>>> Teri
>>>> Briefly, I think Fundations has some good components. I love the 
>>>> letter-keyword-sound. It appears to work very well to help students 
>>>> develop letter sound relationships in Kindergarten. Tapping out sounds 
>>>> seems to help some kids learn to blend. HOWEVER, It brings phonemic 
>>>> awareness in too late, in my opinion and I encourage my teachers to start 
>>>> PA activities earlier. I also think it moves WAY to slow in first grade 
>>>> and up. I would recommend for Kindergarten, and only with modifications in 
>>>> grades one and up. The reason for not recommending it in first grade and 
>>>> up is because it does NOT include instruction in cross-checking with 
>>>> meaning cues in decoding nor does it help kids use syntax. It focuses very 
>>>> heavily on visual cue systems which bothers me. I am too deeply entrenched 
>>>> in the research of Marie Clay to advise you to use Fundations completely 
>>>> as written, even in K. Nonetheless... if you use some components carefully 
>>>> in K... it has had some good results in my schools. (one Title 1, the 
>>>> other not). If you want more detail, let's take this off list. 
>>>> I don't want to get the list sidetracked...
>>>> 
>>>> Jennifer L. Palmer, Ed. D.
>>>> 
>>>> Instructional Facilitator
>>>> 
>>>> National Board Certified Teacher
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Magnolia Elementary (home school)
>>>> 
>>>> 901 Trimble Road
>>>> 
>>>> Joppa, MD 21085
>>>> 
>>>> 410-612-1553
>>>> 
>>>> Fax 410-612-1576
>>>> 
>>>> "Reaching, Teaching, Learning, Changing Lives!!"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Mosaic [[email protected]] on behalf of Adams Teri 
>>>> [[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:59 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] DIBELS
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry that this is off topic....I  am curious if anyone is using 
>>>> FUNDATIONS programs for word work?? We have one school using it in the 
>>>> area but am looking for a broader perspective?  Thanks for any pros/cons 
>>>> you can provide.
>>>> 
>>>> Together in education,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Teri Adams
>>>> Cody's Reading Specialist
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 563-332-0210
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mosaic 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>>> On Behalf Of LINDA CASTALDO
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 5:59 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [MOSAIC] DIBELS
>>>> Importance: High
>>>> 
>>>> I am not familiar with DIBELS Next but I am not a fan of DIBELs Sixth 
>>>> Edition in Second and Third Grades.&nbsp; I like DRA better because it 
>>>> tests oral and silent reading plus it tests reading comprehension.&nbsp; 
>>>> It is more time consuming to have students complete the DRA but overall it 
>>>> lets one see which skills they need more help with.
>>>> &nbsp;
>>>> Lin
>>>> &nbsp;
>>>> 
>>>> &nbsp;
>>>> &nbsp;
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Lin Castaldo, MA. EdTitle One 
>>>> TeacherLinden School Six 19 East Morris AvenueLinden, New Jersey 
>>>> 07036Email: [email protected]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A 
>>>> teacher affects eternity; he can never tell where his influence stops.  
>>>> ~Henry Brooks Adams
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