Hi Keith,

Could you please point me where “Mosh in your pocket” is. Honestly I can’t find 
it. Btw, we’ve recently updated both of our websites so you might refer to the 
old version.

In terms of the naming, there are two entities called MOSH:
1. Mosh protocol. Termius is keen to participate in the discussion of the 
protocol development. We have some thoughts on improving UX, e.g live sessions 
for quick switch between devices.
2. Server and client implementation of the protocol which is available on 
GitHub. 

In general, I find mosh-compatible pretty long and a little bit confusing as 
it’s just a proprietary implementation of the mosh protocol, e.g. there are 
many implementation of the SSH protocol. In addition, we can’t fit in in Apple 
App Store description, e.g. Termius - SSH, Mosh-compatible and Telnet client.

In terms of the support requests, we are subscribed to the mosh-devel channel 
and happy with answering questions related to our implementation. Btw, we have 
UserVoice integrated into our apps so we see most of the requests right there. 

On 7 August 2017 at 7:48:41 PM, Keith Winstein (kei...@cs.stanford.edu) wrote:

Hello Roman,

As we requested earlier (below in this thread), could you please refer to your 
software as "mosh-compatible" instead of calling it a mosh client (or "Mosh in 
your pocket" as is on your website now)?

Thank you,
Keith

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Roman Kudiyarov <ro...@termius.com> wrote:
Hi there!

I’m glad to announce that Termius is a free mosh client for iOS and Android. At 
the moment we are working on a version for Mac, Windows and Linux.

I wonder if it is possible to put a link to termius website from mosh.org so 
end users have more options to pick up from.

On 4 May 2017 at 4:46:24 PM, Keith Winstein (kei...@cs.stanford.edu) wrote:

Hello Roman,

Okay, but if we can't see your code, we don't have a good way to start to know 
if your implementation is "fully compatible" with Mosh (it's not like we have a 
compatibility test suite for new binary implementations). If you didn't 
implement it with clean-room approach and were referencing the Mosh code as you 
wrote your own implementation, we can't tell you if your program is a 
derivative of Mosh or not. I do appreciate your kind words about Mosh.

Sincerely,
Keith

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Roman Kudiyarov <ro...@termius.com> wrote:
Hi Keith!

On 2 May 2017 at 6:40:20 AM, Keith Winstein (kei...@cs.stanford.edu) wrote:

Thanks for letting us know!

(1) Could you please describe the process you used to develop a clean-room 
implementation of the Mosh protocol? Did you write up a protocol specification 
based on the Mosh source code, and then have somebody else implement the spec? 
If so, would you be willing to share the protocol spec?
Writing the spec would be ideal scenario but we just used the original source 
code to learn the protocol and developed our own implementation from scratch 
using different set of libraries and frameworks. 



(2) Is the source code of your implementation available?
We are not sure about making it open-source as we are going to use as our 
competitive advantage and we’ve invested quite a lot of time to get to this 
point.





(3) We've had bad experiences in the past with people (especially iSSH on iOS) 
attempting to implement the Mosh protocol, but with imperfect results, and 
users blaming Mosh for the problems. As with these past cases, please don't 
refer to your implementation as "Mosh." Please refer to it as "Termius 
mosh-compatible mode," with your own name first and "mosh-compatible" instead 
of "Mosh".
Sure, no problem. We will make sure that it’s mentioned as "mosh-compatible”.





Regards,
Keith

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Roman Kudiyarov <ro...@termius.com> wrote:
Hi all!


I’m a co-founder of Crystalnix. We work on Termius, cross-platform SSH client 
(iOS, Android, Mac, Windows, Linux and Chrome). Now we have around 200K of 
monthly users! Our team aims to redesign command line UX from scratch. Your 
team has done an amazing job with the mosh protocol which was one of the most 
desired features that our users have been asking for.

We had to develop our own mosh client(completely different code-base) due to 
the license restrictions. Anyway our code is fully compatible with the current 
version of the mosh server. Very shortly we are launching beta for Android and 
then will roll out to other platforms as well. 

That means that this amazing technology(mosh) will be available for huge user 
base for free!

I just wanted to share those news and say thank you for the job you’ve done! 

Please let me know if you have any questions!


Kind Regards,
Roman Kudiyarov
Termius Team

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