oh, and just for the fun of it ... past threads where we've exchanged
posts regarding the nature of 

1) pre-existing, established contractual trust relationships

vis-a-vis 

2) dynamically establishment of trust on every transaction with the
aid of trusted third party PKI certification authority

and in the case of pre-existing, contractual trust relationships,
whether or not PKI certification authorities were redundant and
superfluous for also establishment of trust relationship
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay11.htm#70 Confusing Authentication and 
Identiification? (addenda)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay12.htm#1 Confusing business process, payment, 
authentication and identification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#22 draft-ietf-pkix-warranty-ext-01
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#41 I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pkix-sim-00.txt
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#45 draft-ietf-pkix-warranty-extn-01.txt
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#48 draft-ietf-pkix-warranty-extn-01.txt
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm12.htm#54 TTPs & AADS Was: First Data Unit 
Says It's Untangling Authentication
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm17.htm#9 Setting X.509 Policy Data in IE, IIS, 
Outlook

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