"Anders Rundgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Lynn,
> 
> Some TTP CAs actually *do* require RP contracts.
> 
> The "only" problem with that is that this is usually also connected to
> RP authentication to OSCP services for payment purposes.
> 
> So even if the certs are stale the information is dynamically verified.

so this is the stale, static, redundant and superfluous scenario.

the problem with OSCP services is that it supposedly just says yes/no
as to whether the stale, static certificate information is still
applicable or not.

as mentioned ... this has all the overhead of having an online service
w/o any of the benefits.

the payment infrastructure moved out of this archaic design in the 70s
with online authentication and authorization with timely online access
to the actual, real information ... like aggregated information of
sequences of operations ... resulting in things like support for fraud
detection patterns and current account balance. the current account
balance represents the starting value (which you might or not might
considering including in a stale, static, redundant and superfluous
certificate?) plus the aggregation of all the ongoing operations
updating the current account balance with subtractions and additions
(say issue a brand new stale, static, redundant and superfluous
certificate everytime there is an account balance update and then
spray it all over the world to every possible and/or potential relying
party).

-- 
Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/
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