> What about those of us who have downloaded Mozilla nightlies for what
> seems like forever and have diligently reported in Bugzilla the bugs we
> find?
I don't think Ben would classify you as a "user". For example, between
1000 and 1500 people download nightlies. 100,000 or more download
milestones. He is talking about the second lot of people.
I have some sympathy with his "why bother with milestones" point - from a
development point of view, apart from the enforced discipline which
working towards stability imposes, milestones are a hindrance. We have to
QA them, developers have to re-prioritise to accommodate them, and then we
all get annoyed when people report the same bugs on them for the nth time,
either in newsgroups or Bugzilla, or complain in already-open bug reports.
On the other hand, "milestoneusers" are going to come across our news
server, and a mozilla.users.general and mozilla.users.wishlist is a good
way to get their 99.9% unhelpful comments to be somewhere where developers
aren't inconvenienced. It sounds harsh, but it's true - at this point in
the project, after all the major decisions have been made, priorities are
set and work is going on - is not a time when we need loads of user input.
Therefore, we must divert it as best we can.
As for Ben's point about getting Netscape to produce sensibly-named groups
on its news server, this is a very good one. See my new post (which will
appear in a minute.)
Gerv
