Ian Davey wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> 
>> The Mozilla nightlies are getting more resource hungry rather than
>> less, it seems :-(  After yesterday's download, I discovered with some
>> dismay that it's already using 29Megs - without me having visited ANY
>> pages (orther than my local-disk based home page.)  Granted, this
>> includes a started Java Plugin (which I didn't ask it to...it just
>> started doing that with the last nightly!) but still...just a week or
>> two ago, I remember checking the same thing and Mozilla "only" consumed
>> 19Megs after initialization....and compare that with NS 4.75's 9Meg and
>> Opera 5.0's 6 Meg....you can see that things are, shall we say, a little
>> bloated :-)
> 
> 
> That may be why then, I never run the Java plugin. It just eats too much 
> memory and I don't actually use any Java sites anyway. There are other's 
> available other than Sun's which may be less memory hungry.
> 
> 
>> I know that you can't judge much from nightlies as they include all
>> sorts of debugging info, but I would have thought that some progress
>> was being made - since M19 (which the nightlies presumably work towards)
>> is supposed to be all about performance enhancements, no?
> 
> 
> They are being worked on but it takes time. Try subscribing to the 
> mozilla.performance group and you'll see that work is being done.
> 
> 
>> Don't get me wrong: Mozilla is my main browser - because at work
>> I have plenty of memory on my NT box, but I avoid it at all cost on
>> my "measly" 64Meg portable (you simply can't run it and NetBeans - 
>> another resource hog - together on 64Megs :-(
> 
> 
> Run it without Java :-)

Well, like I said - it just started bringing up Java by itself whenever
I start the browser.  Although I don't typically visit Java sites, I
don't want to turn off Java completely via the Preferences - in case I
just happen to visit a Java site....the browser just shouldn't start up
Java automatically.

Having said that: not sure how you can' manage to stay at 19Megs.  As
I pointed out, my nightly (12/06) starts at around 29Megs - and only
goes up from there - even without me visiting any Java-loading pages.
Let's see, I've had Mozilla running for about a day now...Task Manager
on NT reports....75Megs!  Which is inline with my previous observations.
The sites I've visited: CNET, E-Trade, Datek, InfoWorld, Mozilla, Yahoo.
That's pretty much it (none of them loaded any Java applets AFAIK.)

I just downloaded the 12/11 nightly.  Let's see what that does :-)
Tom


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