In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Well, like I said - it just started bringing up Java by itself whenever
>I start the browser.  Although I don't typically visit Java sites, I
>don't want to turn off Java completely via the Preferences - in case I
>just happen to visit a Java site....the browser just shouldn't start up
>Java automatically.

I think that's the default behaviour of the java plugin, to load on start-up. 
I'm not sure if that's configurable or not. It would make sense to have the 
option to only load it when hitting a java page (like in NS4). There are other 
java plugins you could try in place of the one that comes with NS6, it just 
that the Sun one happens to be the current default.

>Having said that: not sure how you can' manage to stay at 19Megs.  As
>I pointed out, my nightly (12/06) starts at around 29Megs - and only
>goes up from there - even without me visiting any Java-loading pages.

It might be because I use the image blocker on some (but not all) pages. 
Reading the performance groups it sounds like one of the bloat problems is 
caused by gif images, but this is being looked at. I was even loading lots of 
big PDF files the other day without causing any problems, despite them 
bringing Internet Explorer to a complete standstill. IE has real problems with 
PDF, 5.5 is supposed to fix it, but it doesn't.

>Let's see, I've had Mozilla running for about a day now...Task Manager
>on NT reports....75Megs!  Which is inline with my previous observations.
>The sites I've visited: CNET, E-Trade, Datek, InfoWorld, Mozilla, Yahoo.
>That's pretty much it (none of them loaded any Java applets AFAIK.)

Strange, I've never got up to 75Megs, and run it all day, every day. The 
highest I've got to was about 45Megs, but that was quite a few months ago. Do 
you use the mail/news reader? That seems to bloat things quite a bit.

>I just downloaded the 12/11 nightly.  Let's see what that does :-)

Good plan :-)

ian.

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