Hans-Peter Fischer wrote:
>
> Andreas Franke wrote:
> >
> > Hans-Peter Fischer wrote:
> >
> > > Mozilla 0.6 always crashed.
> >
> > Please try to run mozilla in gdb (ver. 4.95 or greater should be
> > sufficient for 0.6, for the trunk see bug 57051 for a good version),
> > file a bug, and attach the stack trace. For details, see:
> > http://www.mozilla.org/unix/debugging-faq.html
>
> That's a good suggestion, in theory, but the problem is that having a
> full-time job I don't have the time right now to learn how to use gdb
> and such things and submit meaningful bug reports. I can only tell you
> that Mozilla crashed every time I tried to save my message in the
> editor or clicked "Send later" (or how this option is called). When I
> restarted Mozilla then and tried to open the "Unsent messages" or
> "Drafts" folder it immediately crashed again.
>
> Apart from that I am no longer sure that submitting bug reports is
> really worth the effort. I downloaded Opera yesterday for a trial and
> found it to be lightyears ahead of Mozilla (although the Linux version
> isn't finished yet). When Mozilla gets ready in a few years' time I
> wonder whether someone will still be interested.
>
> Another aspect is that I am not sure whether the cross-platform
> approach apparently taken by the Mozilla people with regard to the
> GUI wasn't a mistake. What I was trying to say in my reply to Asa that
> I couldn't send was that Mozilla has display and/or window
> drawing/refreshing problems that I have never seen in any other
> application. My experience as a user is that all attempts to find ways
> of programming for several platforms at once to save development costs
> have failed. The latest WordPerfect release and StarOffice are
> examples of this. A program will only run smoothly on Linux if it was
> programmed specifically for Linux and only for Linux.
>
> If you are still looking for bugs to fix, however, you might start here:
>
> 1) Include a note in the Release Notes that Mozilla requires the
> libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package on Debian. The Release Notes only mention
> RedHat, but that's not the only Linux distribution.
>
> 2) The first thing I got once I had installed the above package and
> managed to start Mozilla was an oversize window that told me Mozilla
> was converting my Netscape 4 profile. The window had no OK, CANCEL or
> ABORT button, and since Netscape 4 had never been installed on this
> machine the conversion never ended.
>
> 3) Although Mozilla is claimed to be the most standards compliant
> browser ever it can't display table borders correctly. Every second
> horizontal line in the large table at the bottom of this page
> http://www.hei-news.de/deutsch.html is too thin on my screen
> (resolution: 832x624). I believe there is a bug report about that, but
> I was surprised to find that the bug is still there in Mozilla 0.6.
>
> I hope my harsh judgement hasn't discouraged anybody. I would only be
> too happy to see Mozilla succeed.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Hans-Peter
>
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Oh Oh! you just doomed your bug reports to be ignored. You just
identified yourself as user instead of a developer. You should have said
at minimum a "tester". They can't abide "end users" here :-) <Grin>
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