Giovanni wrote:
> Aaron Andersen wrote:
>
> > That has been my experience also. The vast majority of netscape users didn't
> > even know what the internet was until long after netscape stopped using mozilla
> > on their website. The few people I know who associate the green lizard with
> > netscape also associate the name "mozilla" with netscape.
>
> And that's been my experience, too.
> I think the image we should immediately remove is the ship's wheel which is widely
> known as Netscape Navigator logo. At the moment the old NS navigator logo is used in
> both classic and modern skin. IMO we should find a different and better logo for our
> browser and probably a new name, too.
>
Navigator defiantly causes confusion! I'm working on a branded version for a small
group
of Roman enthusiasts, and we want a Latin version. While discussing the translation the
name "Navigator" caused a lot of confusion among people who weren't familiar with
Mozilla. Few people remember the green lizard as a Netscape symbol, but Navigator and
the ship's wheel are defiantly associated with Netscape. I would suggest drooping ALL
brand type name from Mozilla. Just call the browser "Web Browser", the Mail client
"Mail
and News", Chatzilla "IRC Chat", Composer "HTML Editor", and Address Book can retain
it's current name. Then those who are creating branded versions can replace the Generic
names and Icons with ones that fit thier product.
IMHO having the classic skin as the default skin is also a mistake if we want to
establish a separate identify from Netscape. When someone tries Mozilla for the first
time having something that looks almost like Netscape 4.x pop up on thier computer
doesn't do a lot to establish Mozilla as being different from Netscape. The Classic
skin
causes more people to associate Mozilla with Netscape than the Green Lizard or the
ship's wheel. Modern is becoming associated with Netscape 6 so it won't do for a
default
skin either. Blue is hopeless due to a lack of maintenance, and a design that wasn't
very popular. Mozilla should have it's own skin. One that doesn't have anything to do
with Netscape, and is the default skin for Mozilla.
>
> > IMO, if we don't want to use the green mozilla because mozilla != netscape, we
> > should have chosen a name for this project that had nothing to do with
> > netscape. As is, we have a web browser named after netscape's old mascot, but
> > we aren't using the image of netscape's old mascot, even though netscape doesn't
> > seem to care. I think this is going to create more confusion than it solves.
>
> This is my suggestion to solve the matter (and makes everyone happy :-) :
> let's use the green lizard as logo for Mozilla-the-software-package and the orange
> dino as logo for Mozilla-the-organization.
> At the moment the word "mozilla" have different meanings: an organization, a
> software, an architecture.
> IMHO, using different logo's could make things clear.
>
> Giovanni
I can go for the two lizard plan. The Green Lizard was "fired" by Netscape, so lets
give
him a job at Mozilla. I would like to see the Red Lizard look more like the Green one
however. The Green Lizard had a personality, an attitude, that was developed in the
cartoons. His attitude fits an open source project perfectly. The Red Lizard would gain
a lot of this personality if he looked more like his Green cousin.
John
