At 06:21 03/04/2001 -0400, John Dobbins wrote:

>Braden McDaniel wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Robert Ennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank goodness for a voice from the world of average users. The
> > > forgotten ones. The silent majority. Without them all of this is self
> > > gratification, if you know what I mean...
> >
> > And you are apparently oblivious to the fact that *self gratification is
> > what this is all about*. "Scratching an itch," as ESR put it. mozilla.org
> > does not serve users. It serves developers. Mozilla is a
> > developer-oriented product. Marketing browsers to the masses is left as
> > an exercise to clients of the mozilla.org codebase.
> >
>
>What makes you think there will be any clients if you ignore the end users?
>If the developers ignore the end user, then you'll wind up with an
>unmarketable product that few clients will bother with and they will soon
>give up on efforts to market a product that won't sell..

This is an old argument,  When people say Mozilla is a developer product 
they don't mean that end users are ignored but that the process is much 
more like an R&D development within an organisation.  Its the distributors 
of builds that will shape product based on Mozilla development.  To say 
there will be a 'Mozilla' browser is more like saying that there is a 
reference model.

Does mozilla.org suffer because there is no equivalent to a Marketing 
head?  Very possibly.

Simon


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