In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Asa Dotzler says...
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>JTK wrote:
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>> Garth Wallace wrote:
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>>>And if
>>>you don't like it here, why stay?
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>> Because I feel it is my responsibility. Do you think doctors "like it
>> here" when they're checking somebody for prostrate cancer, or elbow-deep
>> in blood during surgery, or when all else fails, pulling the proverbial
>> plug? Yet I have to assume that you would not be so presumptuous as to
>> ask them "why stay?".
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>But you've already said "pull the plug" and the family said "No. You're
>a quack. We have plenty of other doctors who think this patient is
>getting healthier each day."
Um, no, almost all of the family left long ago. You've seen Mozilla's usage
statistics, right?
> And they are working on it everyday and it
>is getting better every day.
So is IE6. At a much faster rate.
> And you're chasing him out of the clinic
>and into his home and insisting all the way that the plug should be
>pulled.
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>There are developers with worldwide notariety and respect working on
>this project that say you're wrong.
Name one.
> They say you're wrong every day
>they turn on their machines and make contributions to a project that
>they believe to be personallyw orthwile, valuable to the open source
>communities, necessary for the survivability of a healthy internet and
>even a possible revenue generator.
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As a developer with worldwide notariety and respect myself, I say they're wrong
every day I download another nightly and it uses more memory than the last one
and still takes way to long to load and while some thing was fixed another two
were broken.
>I caught your trolling near the end and didn't read back very far
>through your rants and flames nor do I intend to.
Then you can't really speak from a very solid position, can you?
> And I won't engage any
>further than this comment because it's obvious that you don't really
>give a shit about the project or the community that develops it
Watch the potty mouth honey.
As to your two points:
- I used to "give a shit" about the project. Quite a large "shit" in fact.
While it had been on a slow downward slide for a while, it completely evaporated
circa the release of Netscape 6.0. You know, when the point was driven
undeniably home that Netscape was running the show?
- The "community that develops it" is Netscape/AOL/Time Warner. I feel sorry
for the developers forced to work on this Tacoma Narrows Browser. As for the
N/AOL/TW/AYBABTU itself, I can't speak my mind about them in mixed company.
> and your
>delusions or knowing misrepresentations that you are somehow useful here
>or that you have any responsibility for the helth of this project are
>are either unfortunate or malicious -I couldn't care less which.
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Well if you don't care, why should I?
>If you were really checking for prostate cancer or even performing
>surgery (which you're most definitely not)
But I play one on TV. (???)
>then people here might respond
>differently to your comments.
Yes, if I had a different occupation, my comments would be received completely
differently.
..BTW, what exactly *do* I do for a living?
Come on.
> But you're not doing anything of the
>sort. You're insisting that the plug be pulled because it's too painful
>for you to watch. We don't care that you have a weak stomach. We don't
>care that our direction doesn't match up with what you think it ought to
>be.
And you don't care what your potential user base thinks either, right? That's
me friend.
> Your responsibility?! Where do you get off claiming any
>responsibility for any of the work that goes on here?
Holy Christ, I don't! I claim it's my responsibility to try and STOP what's
going on here!
> Because you were
>a loyal 4.x user? Somehow that binds you sufficiently to this project
>that you feel it is your personal responsibility to convince us all that
>it is time to give up and walk away and that we should listen to you?
>Because you can't bear the pain of watching a project that doesn't
>conform to your standards we shouldn't continue to work on it? You don't
>owe us a diagnosis and we don't accept the one you're offering.
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Doctor: "I have bad news. You have no user base. The numbers clearly show
you're at about 0.2% and not growing."
Patient: "I don't accept that! I have the best browser in the world! Why, it's
so standards compliant that it crashes if your page violates so much as a period
of the standards! I want a second opinion!"
Doctor: "You're fat and ugly too."
>I hope that folks reading this thread find some entertainment value
>here. There certainly isn't much useful information being exchanged.
>
>If you're reading this and it isn't entertaining please walk away from
>it. There are plenty of more valuable discussions.
>
And never mind that man behind the curtain, and for God's sake DON'T think for
yourself.
>--Asa
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JTK
"If we go forward we die. If we go back we die.
It is better to go forward." - Ancient Zulu motto
