In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jesus X says...
>
>JTK wrote:
>> Though you do have a point, albeit minor.  Sombody could have decided
>> that a cross-platform web browser wasn't possible unless they wrote
>> their own device drivers (interpreted-from-ASCII of course, somehow) for
>> any hardware used by it.  That would be more complex, granted.
>
>Look, whether you believe it or not is irrelevant as it has no impact on
>reality. The ability to write a cross platform application depends heavily on
>how to communicate the UI. Have you played Quake 3?

You mean Doom MXXXIV?  No, I grew tired of fighting the exact same "Seargent"s
with the exact same shotgun about thirty-six episodes into that "series".

> Not only is the UI custom,
>but they went to the extreme for code portability. He wrote a virtual machine
>for each platform, and then all the game and UI code is compiled at runtime,
>like Java. Now, Mozilla didn't go that far because it doesn't have quite the
>same scope,

Right, it has a much larger scope as far as UI is concerned. Doubt there's many
tree controls of any type in Doom MMXVIIIXQ.

> but without a standard UI toolkit, the only way to create an XP app
>it to either code it once for each platform, or create your own UI. THat's just
>the way it is.
>

Exactly, so why are you arguing with me?

>> For my own amusement?!?  What kind of ghoul do you think I am?  No
>> Garth, I "keep trying to convince people to give up on Mozilla" (a gross
>> mischaracterization of my position BTW) because what's being done to it
>> is sickening to me, and to the legions of other once-Netscape users who
>> will never use Mozilla.  Mozilla is being 'kept alive' on respirators
>> and feeding tubes while the carcass rots before my very eyes.  There's
>> nothing left to give up on; Mozilla died three years ago, and all anyone
>> who points out that it's starting to stink gets is a blank stare at
>> best, strident "I like the stink!"'s at worst.
>
>Mozilla is hardly dead.

Sez ~0.2% of the browser market.

> A $300 app was just released based on it.

Which app, why, and how's it selling?

My God man, can you imagine how pissed you'd be if you plunked down 3 bills for
a copy of *Mozilla*?!?!

> There are
>other apps in development. It's being worked on the use in the embedded space.

Ok, now you're just plagerizing the Java folks.  "Wait 'til next year!"

>No matter what you hear, there's a group in AOL that is working on it for their
>XP push, such as AOLTV and others. Every day new people come to the project to
>help. It's hardly dead.
>

Better off dead.

>And if you'll never use it, then why keep hammering at US to stop working on it?

I've explained that now like a dozen times.

>Why not leave us alone to use it as we wish? What can possibly be in it for you?
>If it's dead to you, and you'll never use it, why are you here?

Cause I'm pissed.

> Personally, when
>I abandon a product, I generally let others who use it alone, and never think of
>it again. I'm not constantly writing to Deltacomm to create a new version of
>Telix, bitching and moaning all the way. What is the purpose of your constant
>badgering here?
>

I thought my no-nonsense, bottom-line input might make a difference, one way or
the other.

I see it's mainly fallen on deaf ears.

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JTK

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