And it came to pass that Cevpx wrote:

> Christopher Jahn wrote:
> 
>> And it came to pass that Cevpx wrote:
>>>Christopher Jahn wrote:
>>>>And it came to pass that Cevpx wrote:
>>>>>Presentation is what HTML is all about.  How can anyone
>>>>>not want to have a tool that has the potential to augment
>>>>>their attempts at communication? 
>>>>>
>>>>>How many web sites do you see in plain-text?
>>>>>
>>>>I have no problems with Websites using HTML.
>>>>
>>>>But I have NEVER seen a newsgroup post that read better
>>>>because it was in HTML.  All it did was cause my download
>>>>time to STREEETCH way long. 
> 
>> But when you go to a groups where DISCUSSION is taking
>> place,  it's not necessary, and there are drawbacks. 
> 
> 
> HTML formatting helps DISCUSSION, what is your point? ;)
> 

No, it does not. That's my point.


>>>>> Are we talking about bandwidth
>>>>>here? Do we still have people connecting at 300 bps?
>>>>>
>>>>Yes.  At least, a suprising number are connecting at 9600.
>>>>Cellphones, beepers, and other "interenet appliances" do
>>>>connect at very low speeds.  And many schools and library
>>>>systems  (especially in third world locations) connect at
>>>>9600 OR LESS. 
>>>
>>>This reminds me of my parents going on and on about all
>>>those starving people in foreign countries when I didn't
>>>eat everything on my plate. 
>> 
>> There are people starving around the world.  And there are 
>> people whose access is limited.  Why make it even harder
>> for  them? 
> 
> 
> I can't believe this; we're saying HTML is the cause of
> world hunger now.  

No, no one is saying this.
(remainder of foolish statement snipped)

> 
>>>>Because of this, many sysadmins in these areas simply
>>>>block HTML email and newsgroup messages outright. 
>>>
>>>I doubt any sysadmin is blocking HTML email.  Please.  It's
>>>getting deep.  There are a few news servers blocking HTML
>>>but... email... are you serious? 
>> 
>> I am absolutely serious.  I know people in Brazil and
>> Argentina  whose ISP's do not carry HTML because of the
>> added costs. 
> 
> 
> That sucks, man.

That's reality, kiddo.


> 
> 
>>>>And even in the rest of the world, many folks pay:
>>>>by the minute for the phone connection
>>>>By the minute for the INTERNET connection
>>>>and by the kilobyte for the download.
>>>>
>>>>Adding a flowered background or six kind of fonts in seven
>>>>colors just doesn't seem to be a compelling argument for 
>>>>screwing these people. 
>>>
>>>Screw who?
>> 
>> The people who have to pay to download HTML code on top of
>> the actual message content.  When you post HTML, their
>> connection is longer, which they pay for.  It's real money.
>>  Cha-ching! 
>> 
>> Instead of paying, say, $.75 cents to download plaintext
>> email and newsgroups for offline reading, they end up
>> paying $1.25.  It adds up, when you figure these costs must
>> be paid every  single time they access the internet and
>> Usenet. 
> 
> 
> Screw you.  I know what you're up to now.  Next you're going
> to be asking for donations to help pay for all the people
> starving because of HTML email being sent to them.  It's not
> my damn fault!  Bill did it. 

YOu're helping him ...and for just a dollar a month...
;-)  


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I know that you believe you understand what you think I said 
but, I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I 
meant.
 
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