Peter Lairo wrote:

> Neil Durant wrote:
> 
>> Peter Lairo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>
>>>>> This should work no matter where the sig block is placed. That's 
>>>>> just a
>>>>> hacked solution. Better would be a dropdown selection where you can
>>>>> choose from various signatures (e.g., home/work, Text/HTML).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Yeah, but again, that's the point - it *does* work no matter where 
>>>> you  .sig currently is. And that drop-down is already there - the 
>>>> from thing  I was talking about above.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Great, so the sig shoud be able to go directly below my text (and not 
>>> way down below the quoted text).
>>
>>
>>
>> One thing people are missing is that the signature separator ("-- ") 
>> that is supposed to come before the signature is used to tell 
>> mail/news clients that "everything after this should not be quoted in 
>> replies". Good mail/news software should implement this.
>>
>> Why can't people just go and read the RFCs ?
>>
> 
> Then the RFC is bad. Software should work the way the user wants it to 
> work (within reason, of course). If a mail client needs to know where a 
> sig is, then why not define it as:
> 
> -- = sig beginning
> 
> ++ = sig end
> 
> That way the sig could be anywhere. Simple, elegant, make everybody happy.


   Except that this format is only defined in a newsgroup message (as 
opposed to a RFC) and that no other reader on earth supports it.  I 
actually think you would be happier requesting some sort of text pasting 
feature in mozilla.  Then you could bind text (like your signature) to a 
key and smack the key when you are done top-replying to a message.  You 
only lose one keystroke, we get one somewhat useful new feature in 
Mozilla, and the 'bottom-signatures-only-rearguard' are mostly happy.

   Now if I lived in an alternate universe....

   ...the real issue is that the signature and the body of the message 
are two distinct pieces of information.  The '--' is only a hack to 
delimit this information for quoting.  It has always made me wonder why 
a signature was not included as a header like 'Signature: blah'.  Then 
common mailers could display it at the bottom as text (like now), or 
display it on request (I rarely want to see anyones signature; up to 3 
more lines to scroll through), or display it in a seperate pane.  I 
suspect it involves having to embedd newlines somehow.  Oh well thats 
how it rolls I guess.

-Tom

PS - For simple request/reply business emails, especially ones that take 
weeks to respond to I like to have my entire original message included 
in the reply.  However, for all other communication I want inlined and 
trimmed responses.  Different strokes I guess.  The internet is not so 
much a democracy as an anarchy.




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