<preparing for either the flamewar of a lifetime and/or a decent answer 
to my question>

ahhh... what a wonderful (and *productive*) list this is proving to be.

greetings! (again!)

last week, i asked a two fairly simple questions on this list because i 
could not find the answers anywhere on mozilla's site, nor in my 
research on the internet. i received one reply that partially answered 
one question about the lovely "auto-complete" feature. i took the time 
to thank that individual and again ask for help with the over-arching 
headache that is mozilla mail filters.

since that time, i have heard nothing about this issue. NOTHING.

but i *was* fortunate enough to see dozens of asinine posts about both 
the below "text editing" issue (still unresolved as clearly as i can 
see) and the fscking licensing issue (MPL/NPL/GPL/who fscking cares? - 
if you're not contributing the code and/or the original license holder, 
then please shut the fsck up).

so, thanks to those posters for wasting my time and resources and not 
providing anything to help the user community. now, if anyone has any 
*relevant* information as to why mail filters will not remain active in 
mozilla mail, then please email me.

before you mail that flame, sit and ask yourself "Am I an adult?"

have fun!
dave m.

message from 08.23.01 reprinted for your re-reading pleasure:

hello people of mozilla land -

i have been happily running mozilla 0.9.1 on linux and 0.9.2 on windows 
for several months now and for the most part, it has been great. i do 
have a few minor issues and since i haven't been able to find any info 
relating to these questions on the site, i thought i might ask here:

1. the main problem is with mail filters that "won't stick." you set up 
a new filter, create a folder for those messages, then click "OK" and 
the message filters dialog goes away. then at some mysterious point in 
the future, anywhere from one to ten of those filters will make 
themselves inactive. thus, mail is not filtering correctly. any ideas?

2. my one complaint about the web browser is the annoying way that a 
search engine line (in my case, google) drops down everytime you enter 
text into the address bar. and if your mouse cursor is anywhere near 
this bar, you will be taken to the search site, not your intended 
destination. is there a way to disable this?

thanks for the advice!
dave m.

WDA wrote:

> I think I'll insert a little input here.  The fact is, composition 
> within the text/editing window has regressed.  Yesterday, while trying 
> to key a test letter to myself, I had to fight to get words to type 
> correctly and only then, go back and correct them.  It was so bad, that 
> my hamster was sending an email about the matter.
> 
> If there is going to be evangelism for Mozilla, then I would think that 
> something this obvious would get quick and remedial attention.  There is 
> nothing to argue about here - it's the fact and that is all there is to it.
> 
> On a more positive note, Mozilla continues to solidify and improve. 
> Every week, the builds seem to have more substance and stability.
> 
> 
> Peter Lairo wrote:
> 
>> Go reread my post - you didn't understand what I sayd.
>>
>> Here, I'll spell it out for you:
>>
>> 1. I NEVER said text editing would be easy to progream. I just said 
>> that I thought it would be easy. A simple "No, I'ts quite comlicated 
>> because..." would have sufficed.
>>
>> 2. I took justified offense to the cynical and sarcastic and arrogant 
>> response to my honest inquiry.
>>
>> 3. Calling me a sheep just proves my point. Swatting away comments by 
>> regular users is not very "open", is it?
>>
>> 4. Sheep don't go "moo".
>>
>> 5. I don't know what RTFM means, but I'm sure it is neither 
>> respectful, nor constructive.
>>
>>
>> Jon Hall wrote:
>>
>>> I think your response justifies Blake's post even more (not that it 
>>> even needs justifying...). You are blindly arguing, and for some odd 
>>> reason think that using your own ignorance as a weapon will prove 
>>> your superior reasoning ability? You are one of the sheep, go moo 
>>> somewhere. Better yet, go RTFM.
>>>
>>> jon
>>>
>>> Peter Lairo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh the high and mighty programmers. You remind me of puffed-up 
>>>> royalty who try to convince the "common people" that only blue 
>>>> blooded persons could possibly understand the complexities of 
>>>> running a state.
>>>>
>>>> Blake, why don't you live in an arab country (or any 
>>>> monarchy/dictatorship) where there are others who think they are the 
>>>> only ones capable of making descisions/judgements because they are 
>>>> "in the know".
>>>>
>>>> I know that as programmer, you are frequently exposed to criticism - 
>>>> and that can be frustrating/alienating/etc. I understand. But, there 
>>>> is no reason for the arrogance and cynicism you are displaying. I 
>>>> makes you look weak and insecure.
>>>>
>>>> PS. If making a decent text editor is so hard (as judged by you 
>>>> sarcastic response to my inquiry), why then are there (and always 
>>>> have been) a plethora of share-/freeware text editors? It seems that 
>>>> every beginning programmer starts out with programming a text editor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blake Ross wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> We're accepting patches.  Oh, but you're not a programmer.  Thanks 
>>>>>> for judging the difficulty of a programming task, though!
>>>>>
>>>>> --Blake
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mozilla having problems with text editing really baffles me. I 
>>>>>> thought text editing would be one of the simples excercises - even 
>>>>>> DOS 5.1 edit.exe and Windoze 3.1 notepad could do it without any 
>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blaming it on screen resolution is just lame.


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