Jacek Piskozub wrote:
> jesus X wrote:
>
>> Jacek Piskozub wrote:
>>
>>> Using a state symbol [*] of a oppresive country (the red star) in
>>> clearly Stalinist context. For me it is not much better than using the
>>> Wehrmacht cross and marching troops as the symbol of Mozilla.
>>>
>>> The problem is there are still some some people around (like me) who had
>>> to live in the shadow of this very symbol. It's not funny for me. Rather
>>> pathetic.
>>>
>>
>> yes, but that symbol was appropriated by the Communist governments,
>
>
>
> Not all. Cerrainly Soviet and Chinese. Even in my native communist
> Poland the red star was never used as it was a state symbol of another
> country (true, some other communist states used it in some contexts but
> much more sparingly that Soviet Union).
>
> To sum it up: 20 million people were murdered in the Soviet Union and
> neighboring countries(no exagerration here) by men with this symbol on
> their uniforms. This is even more murders than Nazis managed to commit.
> The difference is that the Soviet did not ose the war, so thei crimes
> were fully reveald only after the system collapsed.
>
> For me using this symbol is as offensive as using the Nazi swastika.
> Remeber that swastika was an old solar symbol appropriated by the Nazis.
> Does that make it possible to use it now in good faith? I believe not.
>
> Jacek
>
The Christians killed plenty of people during the Crusades, but the
Cross is not seen as an "evil" symbol. People just accept that mistakes
were made under the guise of reliegion and move on with the belief that
those kinds of mistakes shouln't be made again. Why can't this be the
case with the contructionist artwork?
The reason the swashtika is still "evil" is because it is still used as
a symbol of the Arian Reich. The red star may still be in use by the
communist Chinese government, but there are few, if any, first-world
contries that hold anything but bad feelings towards communism. So,
anyone still keeping faith in the red star as a symbol of opression is
living in the past.
Besides, it's just a fucking browser. If the 'symbolism' is so
offensive, go use Netscape or something else that is more AOL-ized for
you.</rant>
-bZj
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