Trolling wrote:
> "Chris Hoess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> | In article <98p18.3576$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Trolling wrote:
> | > I'm not kidding .. try this link while it's still up:
> | >
> | > http://www.mozilla.org/party/1998/mozilla.gif
> | >
> |
> | Well, let me take your posting record (rather than your handle) at face
> | value and assume you're interested in reasonable dialogue.
> |
> | 1) This issue has been argued over here.  A lot.  People's reaction to the
> | symbol tends to vary greatly.  This may depend on how much they've been
> | exposed to Communism in life; I can't say.
> |
> | 2) The people in charge of the logo are aware of this.  They aren't
> | changing the logo right now, because there are legal issues involving the
> | distribution of the images under the MPL/GPL/LGPL conflicting with
> | Mozilla's desire to retain control over the logo.
> |
> | 3) It has been intimated that the distribution of this logo in Mozilla
> | packages may already have deprived mozilla.org of control over the logo.
> | If this is so, the logo will have to be replaced once the licensing of the
> | images has been settled.
> |
> | 4) The logo appears to have been formulated as, if anything, a mild parody
> | of Communism, not a declaration of sympathy.  (Imagine the reaction of a
> | typical Marxist bureaucrat upon hearing the "Open Source Revolution"
> | compared to the Communist Revolution!)
> |
> | --
> | Chris Hoess
> 
> I remember ( years ago ) when I first noticed the similarity between Mozilla
> logos and graphics with red Communism regalia and I remember the
> disappointment. Someone said to me that they weren't really such and I took
> it at face value. But really they were.
> 
> More recently, today actually, I became a bit incensed.
> 
> Even though you act the apologist and there may well be perfectly
> understandable explanations, I think the Mozilla crew should find a new set
> of logos and graphics. The red Communist 'look' is just too offensive, even
> insulting.
> 
> I've tried out just about every one of the Mozilla milestones with
> enthusiam, but my conscience got me today and I will no longer do so until
> that 'look' is removed.
> 
> Trolling
> 
> 
> 


YES, YES, YES,...

Proposal: What about a white seagull on white ground!!! That would 
ensure nobody feels insulted. :-)

Roland


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