I'm not totally "facted-up" on how usernet hierarchies work, but if 
someone like Netscape sets itself up as some sort of original source of 
information for a newsgroup (ie. the main/final repository), then 
doesn't that mean that they have to ensure that enough high-availability 
disk space + bandwidth is available, regardless of which other 
downstream server feeds are pushing it to users like you & me?

Those numbers might pale in comparison to what the collective usenet 
servers of the world might be providing, but its presumably still 
significant for open-source efforts like that of Mozilla.

sTu.

Netscape Basher wrote:
> Jay Garcia typed:
> 
>> On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And then they will claim only technical information is supposed to be 
>>> posted there. Which is fair because on those groups, Netscape does 
>>> provide the bandwidth.
>>>
>>> Netscape has nothing to do with running this newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Again, you knoweth not of the FACTS !!!!!!!
>>
>> This server is a PRIVATE server located in Mountain View Ca. and is
>> owned by Netscape and administrated by a Netscape manager (Markus).
>> Things may have changed since I last spoke with Markus but that's it as
>> far as I know for now.
> 
> 
> False.  All the bandwith used by me in this newsgroup is from Road 
> Runner- Columbia,SC . You just happen to be using the secnews.netscape 
> to access this group, but you can access through 100's of newsgroup 
> servers, even google. If you would learn to read headers, you would 
> figure this out.
> 
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=netscape.public.mozilla.general
> 
> If secnews.netscape stopped carrying this group, only those who read it 
> through secnews.netscape would be affected while everyone else would 
> continue to receive this group. If you read the headers from me, you 
> will not see any reference to a netscape *news server* at all. Jay this 
> is about the fourth for fifth dishonest statement you have made. I am 
> frankly getting sick and tired of it and it's people like you that 
> ensure Netscape/Mozilla will continue to fail by giving out false 
> information.
> 
> You know nothing about how usenet works. Stick to something you know a 
> little bit about, like Mozilla.
> 
>>
>> I suggest you read up on how news server software works. By way of
>> preferences in the software, the sysnewsadmin can choose to accept/post
>> "public/usenet" feed or not. The Secure News Server (secnews) is hosted
>> on this box as well and does NOT accept usenet feed. Over-simplified
>> explanation but will do for the moment.
> 
> 
> Yup and if the sys newsadmin of secure news server stopped the group, it 
> will would still be carried by 100's of others newsservers.
> 
> To say the bandwith from this group is from Netscape is totally false 
> unless you are accessing only from the Secure News Server from Netscape.
> 
> 
>>
>> Please Kyle, get your facts in order. Bashing Netscape/Mozilla is one
>> thing and is perfectly acceptable under certain conditions such as
>> appending your "bashing" with useful feedback, suggestions, bug reports,
>> feature enhancement requests, knowledgeable discussion, etc .........
> 
> 
> you have already proven you know nothing about usenet. Your statement 
> that Netscape supplies all the bandwith for this group is totally false.
> Ask any newsgroup admin this.
> 
> Just like your dishonest statement to that user who wanted to know how 
> to respond on the top of a reply and your answer was not to show them 
> how but dictate they should never do it. It's an option on Netscape.
> 
> It is your job if you are claiming to help people to answer the 
> question, not imply your will on people. It seems you agenda goes much 
> further than that.
> 
> -- 
> Kyle
> 


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